depending on how much time you have.  i.e. if you were planning on next spring 
for this upgrade.  You could rebuild this thing yourself with the help of the 
Afourians in the Moyer Marine forums.  There is a pretty good thread over there 
recently where a guy did exactly that and it cost him like $800.  He took lots 
of pics and got great advice on the thread.  Between the forums and all the 
parts available, you could totally do it yourself.  These engines are very 
simple flat-heads. I did the exchange because I wanted to go sailing at some 
point and it was May already when i found I needed a new engine.  The PO left 
the raw salt water pump leaking for years and the entire back of the engine was 
a corroded mess.  In saying that, it still ran!!  LOL If you're in fresh water 
I bet that engine will come back nicely with a tear down and rebuild.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: John Irvin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Gary Nylander <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>, <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on repowering with outboard
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:15:00 -0400


Me three on that. The A4 is overall the best answer.From: Gary Nylander via 
CnC-List
Sent: &lrm;2014-&lrm;08-&lrm;04 3:07 PM
To: Paul and Darlene Clarke; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on repowering with outboard

Looking at all the wonderful $5-7000 suggestions..... how bad is your A4? 
Does it need an infusion of the auxiliary stuff, like fuel injection instead 
of the carb and an electronic ignition? Or is the block/head/and so forth 
all history???

I would think if you have been getting nickled and dimed to death for 
years - a big in-place overhaul/update of a reasonably good A4 would be more 
economical than a 10hp outboard.

If you are looking for doing it on the cheap with a used outboard, then you 
will have to put up with a few problems. 1. The behavior in the chop is not 
good - you have a long boat and putting the motor on the back will bounce it 
in and out of the water a bunch.... I am on a J-24 and a J-80 and they are 
both afflicted with "prop spinning" disease. 2. The torque vs. hp 
situation - a regular outboard in the 10hp range is not built to push 5000 
pounds, it is usually pushing about 1000. The alternative of the high torque 
motor is expensive. 3. The pain in the a.. of having to hang over the stern 
to either raise the motor or tilt it.... on a little boat like the J-24, it 
is a bother to raise the motor mount (35 pound motor!) and then tilt it. On 
the 80 (26 feet and low transom) we just tilt it - easier. They don't make 
outboards with folding props..

If you want to get somewhat elegant, you could get rid of all the inboard 
stuff and put the outboard in a well - a couple of feet behind the keel and 
in front of the rudder. My friend's Thunderbird (26+ feet - 4500 pounds) has 
that arrangement and the motor slides up into the boat and a little trap 
door fits where it came from. Smooth, and keeps the spinning prop problem at 
a minimum.

I would go for the overhaul.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul and Darlene Clarke via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 1:28 PM
Subject: Stus-List Thoughts on repowering with outboard


My wife and I are beginning to think it may be time to convert our C & C 27, 
which we&rsquo;ve had for 5 years, to a transom-mounted outboard engine from 
its 
original (1972) Atomic 4. Any listers have experience with a project like 
this, advice, or suggestions? The boat is sound, of course, as is the rig 
and sails, but the A4 engine is requiring infusions of $$ every year, and is 
not reliable. Every year we&rsquo;ve been scuppered, and I want reliability 
without the cost of a new inboard&hellip; hence the idea to try the outboard 
route. 
Thoughts?
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