Hi Ron,
I have a C&C 30 1973 (hull built in 1972) with that exact rudder.
Yes, there are some weather helm, especially on a reach with a tiller.
When I purchased the boat in 2000, I noted that an earlier owner bolted a piece 
of wood in front of the rudder to increase the compensation by adding surface 
forward.
Interestingly, when I hauled out the boat in Collins Bay Marina (Lake Ontario), 
the guys there noted the piece of wood and told me that it was the same as on
the boat hull number one, which was originally owned by Georges Hinterholler, 
the architect of this boat. Hull number was in Collins Bay back in 2000.
Georges added this piece to correct a flaw in the rudder design. Later on, I 
removed the piece of wood because it was rotting slowly
and was also a major source of water infiltration in the rudder.
I shaped a piece of high density styrofoam (used for insulation under house 
foundation floors) and glued it to the forefront of the rudder.
Using various sanders (belt, oscillating and hand) I shaped it to match the 
shape of the rudder and then fiberglassed over with two layers of cloth. I 
finished
it with interprotect over the rudder. In the end, it added about two inches to 
the fore front and reduced noticeably the weather helm.
Not a difficult job if you're handy a bit. Since this rudder has crossed the 
Atlantic ocean twice, I'm not worried about structural integrity.
Wonderful boat, capable of going far, safely.
Points to check:
- Early mast steps needed repair because of rot
- Boom may still be at 5'6". It can be raised with no big problem, meaning the 
boom needs to be shortened. Of course, if you do that the main won't fit 
anymore.
So, plan this for next replacement of the main.
- Later model had a split backstay and earlier had it in the center. It's hard 
to tension the stay properly without observing the stern distorting.
It's easy to shift to a split back stay eventually.
- Check carefully the lamination of the aft starboard bulkhead, in front of the 
stove.
These bulkhead were protected by a white plastics that didn't bonded well to 
fiberglass.

Fair winds
Antoine (C&C 30 Cousin)


Le 2014-06-11 à 13:00, Ron and Sharon via CnC-List a écrit :

> Good morning,
> This is my first entry on the cnc-list. I have 40 yrs. of sailing experiece; 
> mostly on Petersons.
> I am presently without a boat and have been looking at older C&C 30 mk1's 
> (1973-75).
> There are several for sale in my area; asking price about $16,000.
> They seem to be well built and in good structural cond. Most have diesel 
> engines.
> My only real concern is the rudder design (swept back, scimitar shaped).
> Does this design cause excessive tiller pressure when reaching in heavy air?
> How is it for steering when backing into a marina?
> I see that in 1976 they redesigned the rudder. I have not seen a decent 
> 1976-78 mk1 for sale in my area yet.
> Do you think I should forget the 1973-75's and wait for a 1976 or later one?
> I am looking at boats in this era because they are affordable to me.
>  
> Thanks for any replies.
>  
> Ron
> Nanaimo, BC, Canada
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