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3. Re: RPMs on Your Diesel Engine (Rick Brass via CnC-List)
4. Re: 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable? (Rick Brass via CnC-List)
5. need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5" OD to muffler
1.25" OD (Nate Flesness via CnC-List)
6. River cruise (J.P. via CnC-List)
7. Re: River cruise (Richard N. Bush via CnC-List)
8. Re: RPMs on Your Diesel Engine (Chuck S via CnC-List)
9. Re: Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
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10. Re: RPMs on Your Diesel Engine (via CnC-List)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 13:51:36 -0500
From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Gary Nylander <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
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My even bigger problem (after working hard getting the top plate off as
noted, PB Blaster, square-shafted screwdriver in a crescent wrench aided
by a vise-grip on the head of the screw at the same time - takes only
three
hands) was getting the cable free from the retaining pin. We ended up
drilling a new hole in the side of the vertical casting to press the pin
out, after removing the hair-diameter cotter with small needle nose. I'll
consider this newly-drilled hole a nice feature the mfg. forgot to
include,
until someone knows of a better way to get these apart... And by the way
the freed parts make a nice "ting" sound when they fall down the tube into
your after bilge.... recommend a dishpan or something be placed underneath
first....
Nate
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
The cable is pretty easy to measure. The one end is hooked to the shift
lever and the other to the transmission. You can follow the old one and
get
your length. It is (as was said) a Morse cable and is available at many
boat stores. It is threaded at each end - you take the ends off the old
and
put on the new.
The biggest problem is getting the pedestal apart to get to the lever end
- I had to use heat and solvent (PB Blaster or WD40) and an impact
screwdriver to get the flat plate off the top of the casting which holds
the lever.
Don't scrimp on the length, if you are uncertain, buy the next longer
cable, it can always run a bit loose in the lazerette area. I don't
remember the lengthy, and was replacing the throttle cable which may be a
different length.
Gary
#593
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*To:* Nate Flesness <nateflesn...@gmail.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
That was going to be the plan if I did not get a confident answer.
I just didn't want to down the boat too long.
Thanks.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
In case it helps, just replacing mine too.
Same pedestal control setup, slightly different diesel (2QM15 with
Hurth/Kanzaki transmission).
Morse teleflex, 10 foot length.....
Nate
Sarah Jean
1980 30-1
Siskiwit Bay Marina
Lake Superior
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the
old one to make sure you have the right ends and length.
Rich
On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
I have a C&C30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left
on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both.
Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable?
thanks Curtis
--
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recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but
the
dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams
with
open eyes, to make it possible."
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:57:43 -0400
From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump
Cleaning
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Wal: you must be lucky or I am unlucky, my Rule bilge pump float switches
last from one to 3 years and this replacement frequency has been going on
for the 27 years I've owned my boat! (My last Rule bilge pump lasted
about 15 years though--real good service!). I am switching to a completely
enclosed sensing type of switch made by Johnson--I hope it lasts much
longer!
Bob
Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
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messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:19:02 -0400
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
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Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
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I have an M35B in Imzadi. Max RPM is 3000 for that engine. IIRC the max
torque is between 2400 and 2600 RPM - which is consistent with the rule of
thumb that max torque is at about 80% of max RPM.
Your engine will thank you if you use it regularly and with significant
load. Idling for extended periods to charge batteries, it running for long
periods at low RPMs is not good for it. But 2300 is pretty close to
2400-2500, so you are probably not doing significant harm. Just don't be
afraid of going to 2500.
Rick Brass
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On May 27, 2014, at 12:16, Edd Schillay via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Listers,
Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your
diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35.
I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be
worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don?t be afraid to go 2500
or more, but I wonder if he?s just looking for more repair income :-)
How much do you push your engine?
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:25:16 -0400
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
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Or go to your reputable auto parts store with the old cable. A Teledyne
cable is a Teledyne cable. And probably less at the auto parts store than
at a boat supplier - and more likely to be in stock instead of a special
order.
Rick Brass
Sent from my iPad
On May 27, 2014, at 12:09, Rich Knowles via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old
one to make sure you have the right ends and length.
Rich
On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
I have a C&C30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left
on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both.
Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable?
thanks Curtis
--
"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but
the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams
with open eyes, to make it possible."
T. E. Lawrence
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:49:56 -0500
From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5" OD to
muffler 1.25" OD
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Finishing reinstalling my Yanmar 2QM15 in my 30-1, I need to connect the
official Yanmar mixing elbow (OD 1.5") to the orig equipment metal muffler
tube (OD 1.25"). Anyone have a handy source for a suitable adapter? I have
high temp radiator style hoses in both ID sizes.
The P.O had a bizarre collection of hardware store galvanized pipe
connecting a homemade elbow to the muffler. The pipes always leaked a
little. I'm trying to get back to something resembling the original
setup.....
Thanks
Nate
Sarah Jean
1980 30-1
SIskiwit Bay Marina
Lake Superior
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 13:23:01 -0700
From: "J.P. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Subject: Stus-List River cruise
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All,
Just wanted to share some of this weekend's Memorial Day trip. as some of
you may remember, I have Gabriela, a C&C 34' that is homeport on the Snake
River in Washington.
I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long
sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a
sailboat.
I needed my fix, so I bought a C&C 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home
marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances
under
bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents.
This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we
refitted,
cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the
first "out of town" trip we took.not much of a trip only about 25 miles
down
river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the
snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the
Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy
water
and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days.
The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had
his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers
on
them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he
lives
aboard. He said "don't do it, the river is a mess". the extra current made
the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole
forest
floating down the rapidly moving Snake.
I took it as a challenge :)
We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it
were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was
pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back
(from
the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and
docks
on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the
draft of a C&C 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in
the river made by "coves" in the shore line and actually let the boat
point
WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a
bow
anchor and a stern anchor in 40' of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo
(there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter). and had steaks
and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail.
Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less
on
the surface, and more down deep. and the junk floating in the water seemed
to "disperse" more. by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the
junk had washed down the river to the Columbia.
During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us,
but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam
mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels.
In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the
stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river.
Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was
pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to
20mph.
this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the
current.we
sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out
of
the fastest part of the flow.
In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more
than
half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the
water, but we did it without even getting close to a log. (the river can
be
over a half mile wide in some places.) as much of it had washed past us
during the night.
The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a
great
day sailing. The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail
plan
was perfect for what we needed.
Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day.
JP
S/V Gabriela
1978 C&C 34
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:52:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List River cruise
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JP; your description was quite similar to what we get around here on the
Ohio River; except for Coyote part! Happy sailing.
Richard
1985 37 CB
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255
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To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tue, May 27, 2014 4:23 pm
Subject: Stus-List River cruise
All,
Just wanted to share some of this weekend?s Memorial Day trip? as some of
you may remember, I have Gabriela, a C&C 34? that is homeport on the Snake
River in Washington?
I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long
sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a
sailboat. I needed my fix, so I bought a C&C 34 in Seattle and moved it to
my home marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low
clearances under bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents.
This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we
refitted, cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This
was the first ?out of town? trip we took?not much of a trip only about 25
miles down river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter
runoff from the snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and
Washington have made the Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps,
broken branches, muddy water and all the nastiness that happens during the
runoff days.
The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had
his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers
on them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he
lives aboard. He said ?don?t do it, the river is a mess?? the extra
current made the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was
a whole forest floating down the rapidly moving Snake.
I took it as a challenge J
We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it
were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was
pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back
(from the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas
and docks on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can
handle the draft of a C&C 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a
back flow in the river made by ?coves? in the shore line and actually let
the boat point WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would
indicate. We set a bow anchor and a stern anchor in 40? of water, fired up
the BBQ and the stereo (there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that
matter)? and had steaks and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on
the back rail.
Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less
on the surface, and more down deep? and the junk floating in the water
seemed to ?disperse? more? by the next day, it was clear and clean water
and the junk had washed down the river to the Columbia.
During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us,
but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam
mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels.
In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the
stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river.
Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was
pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to
20mph? this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the
current?we sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus
keeping out of the fastest part of the flow.
In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more
than half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in
the water, but we did it without even getting close to a log? (the river
can be over a half mile wide in some places?) as much of it had washed
past us during the night.
The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a
great day sailing? The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the
sail plan was perfect for what we needed.
Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day?
JP
S/V Gabriela
1978 C&C 34
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:20:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"
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Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
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Hi Edd,
I hear 2750 is the sweet spot for an engine w 3600 max RPM
I just ran three days to get my boat from AC to Magothy River, Md. My
M4-30 liked 2750 for the first day running at max, 195 degrees. Diesels
like to run hot and run loaded. They start carboning up if they are loaded
less than 30%. The second day, I had an overheat condition and had to stop
and anchor and clean the heat exchanger. It was scaled up with many tubes
plugged. I rodded it clear using wooden dowels I keep aboard. The flow
improved but only 50%. I changed the impellor and flow was 30% better than
when I launched. The old impellor looked fine, but the results were night
and day, so I threw it away. After that, she ran cooler and liked more
RPMs and we got closer to 3000PRM. 3600 is max. I monitor vibration and
engine temperature to choose RPMs. We were pushing to catch tide changes
to get up the Delaware and thru the C&C Canal.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:16:00 PM
Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Listers,
Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel
engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35.
I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked
and I could go higher. My mechanic said don?t be afraid to go 2500 or
more, but I wonder if he?s just looking for more repair income :-)
How much do you push your engine?
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:23:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: dwight <dwight...@gmail.com>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump
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I installed a big 2000, but doubt it pumps 2000GPM, more like GPH on it's
best day.
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To: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>, "CNC boat owners,
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:55:22 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump
Cleaning
Some bilge pump; 500 gallons per minute...fight fires with that baby
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Sent: May 27, 2014 11:46 AM
To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump
Cleaning
I wired a 500 gpm Rule pump straight to the panel (through a connector
under
the dinette seat). The pump comes with long enough wires that any
connection
is completely up in the (dry) seat area, but I still used Anchor
connectors
with built in heat shrink. So far, so good. I expect it will fail for some
reason (way down under the mast step) so am planning another diaphragm
pump
with a hose down there. I've done this before. The pump itself just craps
out.
I worry little about the fact I have to turn it on and off, as I live less
than a block from the boat and it is in an active yard - they will call if
there is any problem (plus I draw five feet and am in about six feet of
water at low tide, seven to eight at high). And.... there is not enough
room
in the deep part of the bilge for a pump and a switch - I have found the
automatic 'all in one' pumps seem to die earlier than manual ones.
Just replaced the Whale Gusher (I think OEM) after 33 years - you would
think those things would be durable - this time, I will use it every so
often - it was virtually welded together from corrosion.
Gary
30-1, 1980
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump
Cleaning
Dennis had a good call with heat shrink and painting with liquid
electrical tape. I took made my heat shrink about two inches longer than
the connection, and injected marine silicone inside with a syringe. When
the shrunk, silicone gushed out the ends. It has been wet often.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but my 12 year old Rule pumps and float switches
are
still doing fine. I have a little 500 as the primary pump, and a big one
that stays up on a platform about six inches off the bilge, just in case.
The 500 does get clogged up with bilge gunk, and I just replaced it
because they can't be taken apart and cleaned out. One thing I do is
take a garden hose to 3/4" adapter and flush the hose out with high
pressure dock water. I'll also backflush the pump with the garden hose.
Most of the float switches I've seen fail are really due to bad wiring.
I've seen plain crimp connections just sitting in the bilge, and it's no
wonder the wire rots out. The worst, if you can believe it, was just
wires twisted together and covered with electrical tape. No kidding. I
found that down here in Mexico, as the sport fishing boat was sinking at
the dock. The guy came back to town, and when I told him that I'd saved
his boat he didn't even say thanks. Power boaters. (It probably didn't
help that I said whoever did the wiring ought to be taken out and shot.)
Wal
you CnC-List wrote:
I ran a rule float switch to one which failed that first year.
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:26:52 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
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I am told my Beta 25 can run up to 3600 but I reach hull speed at ~ 3200
so running it higher is pointless--the speed is fixed by the combination
of rpm/transmission ratio/prop size/LWL. It is loud enough at 3200!
Charlie Nelson
S/V Water Phantom
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From: Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
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Sent: Tue, May 27, 2014 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Hi Edd,
I hear 2750 is the sweet spot for an engine w 3600 max RPM
I just ran three days to get my boat from AC to Magothy River, Md. My
M4-30 liked 2750 for the first day running at max, 195 degrees. Diesels
like to run hot and run loaded. They start carboning up if they are
loaded less than 30%. The second day, I had an overheat condition and had
to stop and anchor and clean the heat exchanger. It was scaled up with
many tubes plugged. I rodded it clear using wooden dowels I keep aboard.
The flow improved but only 50%. I changed the impellor and flow was 30%
better than when I launched. The old impellor looked fine, but the
results were night and day, so I threw it away. After that, she ran
cooler and liked more RPMs and we got closer to 3000PRM. 3600 is max. I
monitor vibration and engine temperature to choose RPMs. We were pushing
to catch tide changes to get up the Delaware and thru the C&C Canal.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:16:00 PM
Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Listers,
Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel
engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35.
I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked
and I could go higher. My mechanic said don?t be afraid to go 2500 or
more, but I wonder if he?s just looking for more repair income :-)
How much do you push your engine?
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:34:15 -0400
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List River cruise
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I find your situation very interesting. You are a very rare sailor.
For some reason, I often have dreams where I am sailing down city streets,
which happen to have water in them. Somehow my spar never catches any
wires.
I have talked to other sailors who have similar dreams. I must secretly
want to be in the river like you.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
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Subject: Stus-List River cruise
All,
Just wanted to share some of this weekend's Memorial Day trip. as some of
you may remember, I have Gabriela, a C&C 34' that is homeport on the Snake
River in Washington.
I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long
sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a
sailboat.
I needed my fix, so I bought a C&C 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home
marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances
under
bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents.
This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we
refitted,
cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the
first "out of town" trip we took.not much of a trip only about 25 miles
down
river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the
snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the
Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy
water
and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days.
The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had
his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers
on
them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he
lives
aboard. He said "don't do it, the river is a mess". the extra current made
the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole
forest
floating down the rapidly moving Snake.
I took it as a challenge J
We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it
were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was
pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back
(from
the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and
docks
on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the
draft of a C&C 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in
the river made by "coves" in the shore line and actually let the boat
point
WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a
bow
anchor and a stern anchor in 40' of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo
(there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter). and had steaks
and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail.
Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less
on
the surface, and more down deep. and the junk floating in the water seemed
to "disperse" more. by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the
junk had washed down the river to the Columbia.
During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us,
but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam
mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels.
In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the
stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river.
Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was
pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to
20mph.
this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the
current.we
sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out
of
the fastest part of the flow.
In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more
than
half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the
water, but we did it without even getting close to a log. (the river can
be
over a half mile wide in some places.) as much of it had washed past us
during the night.
The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a
great
day sailing. The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail
plan
was perfect for what we needed.
Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day.
JP
S/V Gabriela
1978 C&C 34
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