Since my darling husband decided to jump ship and file for divorce, I left the dock with myself at the helm just this past weekend. My brother and his buddy who knows nothing about sAiling were along and I'm so glad they were. Leaving the dock wAs a bit tricky since the tide and wind was against us and against the Atomic 4. We wound up backing out of the marina breakwaters after fending off successfully several boats. Embarrassing? Yes but a great lesson. And unfortunately upon return, there were mumblings about a "woman at the helm ". It wasn't pretty but there was no damage. Barbara Hickson Fellers
> On May 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, via CnC-List <cnc-my l...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable? (Nate Flesness via CnC-List) > 2. Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning > (Robert Boyer via CnC-List) > 3. Re: RPMs on Your Diesel Engine (Rick Brass via CnC-List) > 4. Re: 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable? (Rick Brass via CnC-List) > 5. need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5" OD to muffler > 1.25" OD (Nate Flesness via CnC-List) > 6. River cruise (J.P. via CnC-List) > 7. Re: River cruise (Richard N. Bush via CnC-List) > 8. Re: RPMs on Your Diesel Engine (Chuck S via CnC-List) > 9. Re: Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning > (Chuck S via CnC-List) > 10. Re: RPMs on Your Diesel Engine (via CnC-List) > 11. Re: River cruise (Bill Coleman via CnC-List) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 13:51:36 -0500 > From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: Gary Nylander <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable? > Message-ID: > <CAG5soNvAQdfHKk0KKQx_+ya83rq7BF-_P-Qk8S67effdGFhX=q...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > My even bigger problem (after working hard getting the top plate off as > noted, PB Blaster, square-shafted screwdriver in a crescent wrench aided > by a vise-grip on the head of the screw at the same time - takes only three > hands) was getting the cable free from the retaining pin. We ended up > drilling a new hole in the side of the vertical casting to press the pin > out, after removing the hair-diameter cotter with small needle nose. I'll > consider this newly-drilled hole a nice feature the mfg. forgot to include, > until someone knows of a better way to get these apart... And by the way > the freed parts make a nice "ting" sound when they fall down the tube into > your after bilge.... recommend a dishpan or something be placed underneath > first.... > > Nate > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> The cable is pretty easy to measure. The one end is hooked to the shift >> lever and the other to the transmission. You can follow the old one and get >> your length. It is (as was said) a Morse cable and is available at many >> boat stores. It is threaded at each end - you take the ends off the old and >> put on the new. >> >> The biggest problem is getting the pedestal apart to get to the lever end >> - I had to use heat and solvent (PB Blaster or WD40) and an impact >> screwdriver to get the flat plate off the top of the casting which holds >> the lever. >> >> Don't scrimp on the length, if you are uncertain, buy the next longer >> cable, it can always run a bit loose in the lazerette area. I don't >> remember the lengthy, and was replacing the throttle cable which may be a >> different length. >> >> Gary >> #593 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Curtis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *To:* Nate Flesness <nateflesn...@gmail.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:14 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable? >> >> That was going to be the plan if I did not get a confident answer. >> I just didn't want to down the boat too long. >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> In case it helps, just replacing mine too. >>> Same pedestal control setup, slightly different diesel (2QM15 with >>> Hurth/Kanzaki transmission). >>> Morse teleflex, 10 foot length..... >>> >>> Nate >>> Sarah Jean >>> 1980 30-1 >>> Siskiwit Bay Marina >>> Lake Superior >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the >>>> old one to make sure you have the right ends and length. >>>> >>>> Rich >>>> >>>>> On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a C&C30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left >>>> on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. >>>>> Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> thanks Curtis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty >>>> recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the >>>> dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with >>>> open eyes, to make it possible." >>>>> >>>>> T. E. Lawrence >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>> >>>>> Email address: >>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom >>>> of page at: >>>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> >>>> Email address: >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>>> page at: >>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty >> recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the >> dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with >> open eyes, to make it possible." >> >> T. E. Lawrence >> >> . >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/70196c9c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:57:43 -0400 > From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump > Cleaning > Message-ID: <2aae6aae-da7c-47a7-be03-84a453918...@icloud.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Wal: you must be lucky or I am unlucky, my Rule bilge pump float switches > last from one to 3 years and this replacement frequency has been going on for > the 27 years I've owned my boat! (My last Rule bilge pump lasted about 15 > years though--real good service!). I am switching to a completely enclosed > sensing type of switch made by Johnson--I hope it lasts much longer! > > Bob > > Bob Boyer > S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD > 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 > email: dainyr...@icloud.com > blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com > > "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply > messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/aaac79b4/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:19:02 -0400 > From: Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine > Message-ID: <4f9e9ba5-ceae-447c-aa59-dd8509fca...@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have an M35B in Imzadi. Max RPM is 3000 for that engine. IIRC the max > torque is between 2400 and 2600 RPM - which is consistent with the rule of > thumb that max torque is at about 80% of max RPM. > > Your engine will thank you if you use it regularly and with significant load. > Idling for extended periods to charge batteries, it running for long periods > at low RPMs is not good for it. But 2300 is pretty close to 2400-2500, so you > are probably not doing significant harm. Just don't be afraid of going to > 2500. > > Rick Brass > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 27, 2014, at 12:16, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> Listers, >> >> Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel >> engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. >> >> I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked >> and I could go higher. My mechanic said don?t be afraid to go 2500 or more, >> but I wonder if he?s just looking for more repair income :-) >> >> How much do you push your engine? >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, NY >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/8cf582be/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:25:16 -0400 > From: Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable? > Message-ID: <2a152c0d-34ad-4f59-9066-fbe54be6d...@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Or go to your reputable auto parts store with the old cable. A Teledyne cable > is a Teledyne cable. And probably less at the auto parts store than at a boat > supplier - and more likely to be in stock instead of a special order. > > Rick Brass > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 27, 2014, at 12:09, Rich Knowles via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old >> one to make sure you have the right ends and length. >> >> Rich >> >>> On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have a C&C30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on >>> the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. >>> Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? >>> >>> >>> >>> thanks Curtis >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty >>> recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the >>> dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with >>> open eyes, to make it possible." >>> >>> T. E. Lawrence >>> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:49:56 -0500 > From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5" OD to > muffler 1.25" OD > Message-ID: > <CAG5soNuPJY7fKe=fhbhoay2dbno4xhehh-dhhklcpca4b8c...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Finishing reinstalling my Yanmar 2QM15 in my 30-1, I need to connect the > official Yanmar mixing elbow (OD 1.5") to the orig equipment metal muffler > tube (OD 1.25"). Anyone have a handy source for a suitable adapter? I have > high temp radiator style hoses in both ID sizes. > > The P.O had a bizarre collection of hardware store galvanized pipe > connecting a homemade elbow to the muffler. The pipes always leaked a > little. I'm trying to get back to something resembling the original > setup..... > > Thanks > > Nate > Sarah Jean > 1980 30-1 > SIskiwit Bay Marina > Lake Superior > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/8cfb0da6/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 13:23:01 -0700 > From: "J.P. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List River cruise > Message-ID: <1fb101cf79e9$75b26480$61172d80$@jpiworldwide.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > All, > > > > Just wanted to share some of this weekend's Memorial Day trip. as some of > you may remember, I have Gabriela, a C&C 34' that is homeport on the Snake > River in Washington. > > > > I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long > sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a sailboat. > I needed my fix, so I bought a C&C 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home > marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances under > bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents. > > > > This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we refitted, > cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the > first "out of town" trip we took.not much of a trip only about 25 miles down > river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the > snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the > Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy water > and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days. > > > > The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had > his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers on > them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he lives > aboard. He said "don't do it, the river is a mess". the extra current made > the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole forest > floating down the rapidly moving Snake. > > > > I took it as a challenge :) > > > > We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it > were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was > pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back (from > the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and docks > on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the > draft of a C&C 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in > the river made by "coves" in the shore line and actually let the boat point > WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a bow > anchor and a stern anchor in 40' of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo > (there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter). and had steaks > and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail. > > > > Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less on > the surface, and more down deep. and the junk floating in the water seemed > to "disperse" more. by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the > junk had washed down the river to the Columbia. > > > > During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us, > but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam > mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels. > In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the > stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river. > > > > Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was > pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to 20mph. > this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the current.we > sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out of > the fastest part of the flow. > > > > In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more than > half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the > water, but we did it without even getting close to a log. (the river can be > over a half mile wide in some places.) as much of it had washed past us > during the night. > > > The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a great > day sailing. The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail plan > was perfect for what we needed. > > > > Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day. > > > > JP > > S/V Gabriela > > 1978 C&C 34 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/546f052c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:52:22 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List River cruise > Message-ID: > <8d14804b154e8f5-2688-23...@webmailstg-vd09.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > JP; your description was quite similar to what we get around here on the Ohio > River; except for Coyote part! Happy sailing. > > > Richard > 1985 37 CB > > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: J.P. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tue, May 27, 2014 4:23 pm > Subject: Stus-List River cruise > > > > All, > > Just wanted to share some of this weekend?s Memorial Day trip? as some of you > may remember, I have Gabriela, a C&C 34? that is homeport on the Snake River > in Washington? > > I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long sails > in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a sailboat. I > needed my fix, so I bought a C&C 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home > marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances under > bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents. > > This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we refitted, > cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the > first ?out of town? trip we took?not much of a trip only about 25 miles down > river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the > snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the > Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy water > and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days. > > The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had his > commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers on them > up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he lives > aboard. He said ?don?t do it, the river is a mess?? the extra current made > the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole forest > floating down the rapidly moving Snake. > > I took it as a challenge J > > We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it > were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was > pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back (from > the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and docks > on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the > draft of a C&C 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in > the river made by ?coves? in the shore line and actually let the boat point > WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a bow > anchor and a stern anchor in 40? of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo > (there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter)? and had steaks and > corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail. > > Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less on > the surface, and more down deep? and the junk floating in the water seemed to > ?disperse? more? by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the junk > had washed down the river to the Columbia. > > During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us, but > we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam mattresses > under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels. In the > morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the stove in the > galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river. > > Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was > pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to 20mph? > this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the current?we > sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out of > the fastest part of the flow. > > In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more than > half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the > water, but we did it without even getting close to a log? (the river can be > over a half mile wide in some places?) as much of it had washed past us > during the night. > > The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a great > day sailing? The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail plan > was perfect for what we needed. > > Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day? > > JP > S/V Gabriela > 1978 C&C 34 > > > _______________________________________________ > his List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > Email address: > nc-l...@cnc-list.com > o change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > t: > ttp://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/eac1db5a/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:20:04 +0000 (UTC) > From: Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine > Message-ID: > <1650961119.20464056.1401225603953.javamail.r...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Edd, > I hear 2750 is the sweet spot for an engine w 3600 max RPM > > I just ran three days to get my boat from AC to Magothy River, Md. My M4-30 > liked 2750 for the first day running at max, 195 degrees. Diesels like to run > hot and run loaded. They start carboning up if they are loaded less than 30%. > The second day, I had an overheat condition and had to stop and anchor and > clean the heat exchanger. It was scaled up with many tubes plugged. I rodded > it clear using wooden dowels I keep aboard. The flow improved but only 50%. I > changed the impellor and flow was 30% better than when I launched. The old > impellor looked fine, but the results were night and day, so I threw it away. > After that, she ran cooler and liked more RPMs and we got closer to 3000PRM. > 3600 is max. I monitor vibration and engine temperature to choose RPMs. We > were pushing to catch tide changes to get up the Delaware and thru the C&C > Canal. > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Atlantic City, NJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:16:00 PM > Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine > > Listers, > > Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel > engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. > > I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and > I could go higher. My mechanic said don?t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I > wonder if he?s just looking for more repair income :-) > > How much do you push your engine? > > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/b2c69861/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:23:31 +0000 (UTC) > From: Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: dwight <dwight...@gmail.com>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump > Cleaning > Message-ID: > <900338841.20467216.1401225811152.javamail.r...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I installed a big 2000, but doubt it pumps 2000GPM, more like GPH on it's > best day. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:55:22 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning > > Some bilge pump; 500 gallons per minute...fight fires with that baby > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary > Nylander via CnC-List > Sent: May 27, 2014 11:46 AM > To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning > > I wired a 500 gpm Rule pump straight to the panel (through a connector under > > the dinette seat). The pump comes with long enough wires that any connection > > is completely up in the (dry) seat area, but I still used Anchor connectors > with built in heat shrink. So far, so good. I expect it will fail for some > reason (way down under the mast step) so am planning another diaphragm pump > with a hose down there. I've done this before. The pump itself just craps > out. > > I worry little about the fact I have to turn it on and off, as I live less > than a block from the boat and it is in an active yard - they will call if > there is any problem (plus I draw five feet and am in about six feet of > water at low tide, seven to eight at high). And.... there is not enough room > > in the deep part of the bilge for a pump and a switch - I have found the > automatic 'all in one' pumps seem to die earlier than manual ones. > > Just replaced the Whale Gusher (I think OEM) after 33 years - you would > think those things would be durable - this time, I will use it every so > often - it was virtually welded together from corrosion. > > Gary > 30-1, 1980 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wally Bryant via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning > > >> Dennis had a good call with heat shrink and painting with liquid >> electrical tape. I took made my heat shrink about two inches longer than >> the connection, and injected marine silicone inside with a syringe. When >> the shrunk, silicone gushed out the ends. It has been wet often. >> >> Maybe I'm just lucky, but my 12 year old Rule pumps and float switches are > >> still doing fine. I have a little 500 as the primary pump, and a big one >> that stays up on a platform about six inches off the bilge, just in case. >> The 500 does get clogged up with bilge gunk, and I just replaced it >> because they can't be taken apart and cleaned out. One thing I do is >> take a garden hose to 3/4" adapter and flush the hose out with high >> pressure dock water. I'll also backflush the pump with the garden hose. >> >> Most of the float switches I've seen fail are really due to bad wiring. >> I've seen plain crimp connections just sitting in the bilge, and it's no >> wonder the wire rots out. The worst, if you can believe it, was just >> wires twisted together and covered with electrical tape. No kidding. I >> found that down here in Mexico, as the sport fishing boat was sinking at >> the dock. The guy came back to town, and when I told him that I'd saved >> his boat he didn't even say thanks. Power boaters. (It probably didn't >> help that I said whoever did the wiring ought to be taken out and shot.) >> >> Wal >> >> >> >> you CnC-List wrote: >>> I ran a rule float switch to one which failed that first year. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/a7e7ada4/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:26:52 -0400 (EDT) > From: via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cscheaf...@comcast.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine > Message-ID: <8d14809827a1a48-21e0-28...@webmail-d236.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > I am told my Beta 25 can run up to 3600 but I reach hull speed at ~ 3200 so > running it higher is pointless--the speed is fixed by the combination > of rpm/transmission ratio/prop size/LWL. It is loud enough at 3200! > > Charlie Nelson > S/V Water Phantom > > cenel...@aol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>; CNC boat owners, cnc-list > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tue, May 27, 2014 5:22 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine > > > > Hi Edd, > > I hear 2750 is the sweet spot for an engine w 3600 max RPM > > > > I just ran three days to get my boat from AC to Magothy River, Md. My M4-30 > liked 2750 for the first day running at max, 195 degrees. Diesels like to > run hot and run loaded. They start carboning up if they are loaded less than > 30%. The second day, I had an overheat condition and had to stop and anchor > and clean the heat exchanger. It was scaled up with many tubes plugged. I > rodded it clear using wooden dowels I keep aboard. The flow improved but > only 50%. I changed the impellor and flow was 30% better than when I > launched. The old impellor looked fine, but the results were night and day, > so I threw it away. After that, she ran cooler and liked more RPMs and we > got closer to 3000PRM. 3600 is max. I monitor vibration and engine > temperature to choose RPMs. We were pushing to catch tide changes to get up > the Delaware and thru the C&C Canal. > > > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Atlantic City, NJ > > > > > From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:16:00 PM > Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine > > > > Listers, > > > Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel > engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. > > > I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and > I could go higher. My mechanic said don?t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I > wonder if he?s just looking for more repair income :-) > > > How much do you push your engine? > > > > > All the best, > > > Edd > > > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/51c13b8b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:34:15 -0400 > From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List River cruise > Message-ID: <28e401cf79f3$695f2290$3c1d67b0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I find your situation very interesting. You are a very rare sailor. > > For some reason, I often have dreams where I am sailing down city streets, > which happen to have water in them. Somehow my spar never catches any wires. > I have talked to other sailors who have similar dreams. I must secretly > want to be in the river like you. > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of J.P. via > CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:23 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List River cruise > > > > All, > > > > Just wanted to share some of this weekend's Memorial Day trip. as some of > you may remember, I have Gabriela, a C&C 34' that is homeport on the Snake > River in Washington. > > > > I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long > sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a sailboat. > I needed my fix, so I bought a C&C 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home > marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances under > bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents. > > > > This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we refitted, > cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the > first "out of town" trip we took.not much of a trip only about 25 miles down > river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the > snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the > Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy water > and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days. > > > > The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had > his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers on > them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he lives > aboard. He said "don't do it, the river is a mess". the extra current made > the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole forest > floating down the rapidly moving Snake. > > > > I took it as a challenge J > > > > We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it > were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was > pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back (from > the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and docks > on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the > draft of a C&C 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in > the river made by "coves" in the shore line and actually let the boat point > WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a bow > anchor and a stern anchor in 40' of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo > (there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter). and had steaks > and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail. > > > > Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less on > the surface, and more down deep. and the junk floating in the water seemed > to "disperse" more. by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the > junk had washed down the river to the Columbia. > > > > During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us, > but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam > mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels. > In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the > stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river. > > > > Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was > pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to 20mph. > this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the current.we > sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out of > the fastest part of the flow. > > > > In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more than > half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the > water, but we did it without even getting close to a log. (the river can be > over a half mile wide in some places.) as much of it had washed past us > during the night. > > > The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a great > day sailing. The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail plan > was perfect for what we needed. > > > > Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day. > > > > JP > > S/V Gabriela > > 1978 C&C 34 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/b944f077/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 100, Issue 69 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
