Thanks for the offer Joel but I'm likely going with the bronze one. I very much appreciate the offer though :)
Steve www.sv-suhana.com Toronto On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>wrote: > Steve, > > Think I have an extra housing from an Airmar DST 800. Let me know if you > want me to look for it. > > Joel > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I had a whole episode last spring after launch where the new speed >> transducer was leaking. We had a terrible experience at the boatyard where >> we launched and once the boat was splashed I wanted to get the hell out of >> there ASAP. I checked "all" the thru-hulls and none were leaking. Fired up >> the A4 and took off. Half way back to our club I asked my girlfriend to >> check the bow where the new speed transducer was, I had forgotten to check >> that one! And though the water level in the bilge remained low I thought >> "better safe". She yells from the v-berth "it's full of water here". I >> figured she was joking. Once it was determined that she wasn't joking my >> heart sank. I didn't want to have to pull the damn boat again! The yard >> would rape me! >> >> I was puzzled (still motoring around at this point trying to figure out >> what the hell to do). The limber hole from the bow section to the bilge was >> glassed over! argh >> Hence no indication from the bilge pump. >> >> Long story less long, the transducer was leaking between the housing and >> the paddlewheel plug. WTF?!? I knew that I had bedded the housing/thru-hull >> properly (I'de gone through that exercise with the other thru-hulls the >> season prior) and inspection confirmed. Twisting the ducer in the housing >> yielded changes in the amount of water intrusion. Anyway, I managed to get >> the leak down to a reasonable "won't sink the boat overnight" level and >> called it a day. Came back early in the morning and bailed out the bow >> compartment and fixed the leak with oversized o-rings I got at Home Depot. >> I could still make it weep by twisting the ducer so I found a nice position >> where it wouldn't leak and left it there. Not ideal. I plan to replace that >> housing with the bronze offering before launch. I think because the hull is >> curved there the housing may have deformed ever so slightly causing the >> o-rings not to seal properly. Larger o-rings are not an elegant and >> worry-free solution so I'll caugh up the dough for the bronze >> thru-hull/ducer. >> >> I probably already posted this stupid story here before ... >> >> the point being that I'm not excited about more holes in the boat :) >> Also work. Drilling and stuff, that's work! I have enough work to do on >> the boat. I'll try the silicone first, it's easy enough. If that doesn't >> work I'll drill. >> >> Thanks all. >> >> Steve >> www.sv-suhana.com >> Toronto >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote: >> >>> Correct! :) >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:25, "dwight" <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I would not hesitate to put a plug in any hole that was letting >>> water into the boat, would you? One less hole in the hull if it is not >>> needed is a good thing by my standards, and that says nothing about doing >>> these necessary holes in the right way...just one less means one less to do >>> right >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* CnC-List >>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >>> *On Behalf Of *Rich Knowles >>> *Sent:* February 13, 2014 12:11 PM >>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Drill another hole? >>> >>> >>> >>> A through hull or hose can fail. Hence the plug. Not to fill a hole in >>> the hull itself. >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:51, "dwight" <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Still, these holes are one of the main reasons for carrying plugs...I >>> have never had to use a plug >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* CnC-List >>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >>> *On Behalf Of *Rich Knowles >>> *Sent:* February 13, 2014 11:15 AM >>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Drill another hole? >>> >>> >>> >>> Re plugs: I've had 14 boats with many holes in each of them and have yet >>> to have a problem other than stuck valves. I have installed many >>> transponders in all kinds of boats, and I have yet to see a properly >>> installed through hull transponder leak or cause any problems. I think the >>> fears of drilling holes in hulls are unfounded. Just sayin'... >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:04, "dwight" <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> That is correct, so it looks like an upside down mushroom when mounted >>> in the silicone...use a good size glob of silicone and make sure there are >>> no >>> entrapped air bubbles in it before you attempt to mount the transducer...as >>> the excess squeezes out some will rise to just about the edge of the >>> mushroom....I would guess the thickness of silicone between the transducer >>> and the hull when you have it mounted won't be much but it must not contain >>> entrapped air bubbles, just won't work well if it does...I simply held mine >>> down hard for a few minutes not until the silicone had fully cured but >>> within a day the silicone had cured. My boat was in the water when I did >>> the mount so I was able to get instant feedback. Holes in the hull are the >>> primary reasons we all carry plugs >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* CnC-List >>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >>> *On Behalf Of *Stevan Plavsa >>> *Sent:* February 13, 2014 10:51 AM >>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Drill another hole? >>> >>> >>> >>> Dwight, I believe the ST-60 uses the same transducer as the ST-40 that I >>> have. Yours is designed to be used as a thru-hull correct? >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> www.sv-suhana.com/ >>> >>> Toronto >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:38 AM, dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a Raymarine st60 system. The transducer is the ordinary thru >>> hull unit. A few years back I cleaned the inside of the hull well with >>> acetone in the spot I wanted to mount it and simply plunked it down in a >>> big fresh glob of GE 100% silicone sealant...you have to plunk it down on a >>> slant and hold it down for a while so as to squeeze out any air bubbles >>> that might get entrapped. It has worked very well for the last 4 years. >>> You may be able to do something like that with your new transducer when you >>> mount it up forward and avoid making another hole. I plugged the hole that >>> mine was in before I did the inside mount. Mine measures to 200 feet depth >>> at least but in depths greater than 200 it fails to work so you do lose >>> some range if that is important to you, 200 feet was fine for me. Anyway >>> you could try it all out without drilling anymore holes and you could also >>> mount the old one that way and avoid having to use mineral oil. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of >>> *Stevan >>> Plavsa >>> *Sent:* February 13, 2014 10:07 AM >>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Subject:* Stus-List Drill another hole? >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> >>> >>> I installed depth and speed last season and I re-used the old >>> through-hull transducer (no hole) and that works fine. However, that >>> transducer is located under the starboard settee (the one forward of the >>> nav station) and because it needs to be encased in mineral oil (or whatever >>> it is in there) it's in a big piece of pipe right in the middle of that >>> storage area. Needless to say, I don't use that storage area very much and >>> I would like to. >>> >>> >>> >>> I've also had some problems with the depth instrument, sometimes it >>> stops reading and I suspect the old cable or the transducer. >>> >>> >>> >>> My thinking is to drill a new hole in the hull up forward (currently >>> it's next to the keel), and install the thru-hull that came with the unit >>> and run the new wire. I'm hoping that this will achieve two things: >>> >>> >>> >>> better working depth instrument (with full range) >>> >>> a usable storage compartment (valuable on my small boat) >>> >>> >>> >>> Now my question to you all: is it worth the trouble? Drilling a hole in >>> the boat is typically avoided and I already have the following holes: >>> >>> >>> >>> Engine raw water intake >>> >>> Two scuppers >>> >>> Galley drain >>> >>> Head drain >>> >>> Head intake >>> >>> Speed thru-hull >>> >>> >>> >>> That would make eight with a new hole. Too many? >>> >>> I've replaced almost all of the thru-hulls and original gate valves with >>> new bronze thru-hulls and proper seacocks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>> >>> Toronto >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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