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The CS 36 Merlin is nicer than the 36T but still from the outside the 35MKII wins _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: January 13, 2014 9:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Comparing boats for purchase I know the CS to be more of a cruising sailboat. I can't comment on performance but I'm with Dwight when he says the C&C is easier on the eyes. I've always liked CS boats and the 36T in particular but I would only choose one over a C&C if long distance voyaging was in the plans. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> wrote: Andrew: After sailing on both boats, I wouldn't recommend you make your decision based on PHRF ratings. Both boats will sail to their numbers with the right crew. A little story to help put things into perspective.....a few seasons back, I crewed on Beneteau 49 at our club for some of the Wednesday night races (around the cans, short courses).....well, given that the B49 was the heaviest displacement boat in the fleet, we normally finished last or second last.....sometimes we would beat one other boat in the fleet, can't t remember the make, a 40 odd footer family sailed with young kids. The lighter displacement boats, no matter how they were crewed, simply had an advantage over us on short courses. A little puff, and they accelerate regardless of the big sail area of the the B49. Don't know if this helps? Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 -84 Halifax, N.S. PS: Now after the race(s), the B49 had cabin heat, hot popcorn from the microwave, plenty of adult beverages, the Playboy channel on the big screen TV, other 'eye candy', in high Summer in bikinis.....finishing last had it's benefits, I guess. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of andrew rothweiler Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:29 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Comparing boats for purchase Hello All, Requesting some advice about interpreting data/stats on 2 boats I'm considering for purchase. Having a boat that has the traveler and genoa winches easy to reach from behind the helm is a key factor for me so that control/single handing will be easier. Also, I'm using PHRF numbers to help determine which boat might be more competitive in club races. So the two boats are a C&C 35-2 and a CS 36T. The stats I'm using are from the PHRF site and SailboataData.com: (don't know how this chart will come out on the forum) LOA LWL B D SA DISP SA/DISP DISP/LWL FORE/MAIN SAIL AREAS C&C 35-2 PHRF 123-139-126 <tel:123-139-126%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%2035> 35' 30.77 10.58 5.58 629sf 13,800 17.56 224.34 352.5/276.75 CS 36T PHRF 123-135-126 <tel:123-135-126%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%2036> 36.5 29.92 11.5 6.35 640sf 15,500 16.53 258.34 367.5/272.53 My main question is how can the CS36 have a nearly identical PHRF to the C&C when the CS 1) weighs almost 2,000lbs more and 2) doesn't compensate for the weight with a lot more sail area, the total sail areas being almost the same? What other factors must be considered in understanding why a similar size boat with almost the same waterline and sail area but weighs a ton more has the same PHRF? What am I missing? Which of the two boats would do better in club races and around the marks? Thanks in advance for your help in understanding this. _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6498 - Release Date: 01/13/14
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