Steve

 

The CS 36 Merlin is nicer than the 36T but still from the outside the 35MKII
wins 

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
Plavsa
Sent: January 13, 2014 9:38 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Comparing boats for purchase

 

I know the CS to be more of a cruising sailboat. I can't comment on
performance but I'm with Dwight when he says the C&C is easier on the eyes.
I've always liked CS boats and the 36T in particular but I would only choose
one over a C&C if long distance voyaging was in the plans.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
wrote:

Andrew:

After sailing on both boats, I wouldn't recommend you make your decision
based on PHRF ratings.  Both boats will sail to their numbers with the right
crew. 

A little story to help put things into perspective.....a few seasons back, I
crewed on Beneteau 49 at our club for some of the Wednesday night races
(around the cans, short courses).....well, given that the B49 was the
heaviest displacement boat in the fleet, we normally finished last or second
last.....sometimes we would beat one other boat in the fleet, can't t
remember the make, a 40 odd footer family sailed with young kids.  The
lighter displacement boats, no matter how they were crewed, simply had an
advantage over us on short courses.  A little puff, and they accelerate
regardless of the big sail area of the the B49.  

Don't know if this helps?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 -84
Halifax, N.S.


PS:    Now after the race(s), the B49 had cabin heat, hot popcorn from the
microwave, plenty of adult beverages, the Playboy channel on the big screen
TV, other 'eye candy', in high Summer in bikinis.....finishing last had it's
benefits, I guess.



 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of andrew
rothweiler
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Comparing boats for purchase

 

Hello All,

Requesting some advice about interpreting data/stats on 2 boats I'm
considering for purchase.  Having a boat that has the traveler and genoa
winches easy to reach from behind the helm is a key factor for me so that
control/single handing will be easier.

Also, I'm using PHRF numbers to help determine which boat might be more
competitive in  club races.

So the two boats are a C&C 35-2 and a CS 36T.

 

The stats I'm using are from the PHRF site and SailboataData.com:  (don't
know how this chart will come out on the forum)

 

                                                      LOA  LWL  B         D
SA         DISP      SA/DISP   DISP/LWL   FORE/MAIN SAIL AREAS

 

C&C 35-2  PHRF 123-139-126 <tel:123-139-126%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%2035>     35'
30.77  10.58   5.58   629sf    13,800      17.56         224.34
352.5/276.75

 

CS    36T   PHRF 123-135-126 <tel:123-135-126%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%2036>
36.5   29.92  11.5     6.35   640sf    15,500      16.53          258.34
367.5/272.53

 

My main question is how can the CS36 have a nearly identical PHRF to the C&C
when the CS 1) weighs almost 2,000lbs more and 2) doesn't compensate for the
weight with a lot more sail area, the total sail areas being almost the
same?

What other factors must be considered in understanding why a similar size
boat with almost the same waterline and sail area but weighs a ton more has
the same PHRF? What am I missing?   Which of the two boats would do better
in club races and around the marks?

 

Thanks in advance for your help in understanding this.

 

 

 





 
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