I know the CS to be more of a cruising sailboat. I can't comment on
performance but I'm with Dwight when he says the C&C is easier on the eyes.
I've always liked CS boats and the 36T in particular but I would only
choose one over a C&C if long distance voyaging was in the plans.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto



On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>wrote:

>  Andrew:
>
> After sailing on both boats, I wouldn't recommend you make your decision
> based on PHRF ratings.  Both boats will sail to their numbers with the
> right crew.
>
> A little story to help put things into perspective.....a few seasons back,
> I crewed on Beneteau 49 at our club for some of the Wednesday night races
> (around the cans, short courses).....well, given that the B49 was the
> heaviest displacement boat in the fleet, we normally finished last or
> second last.....sometimes we would beat one other boat in the fleet, can't
> t remember the make, a 40 odd footer family sailed with young kids.  The
> lighter displacement boats, no matter how they were crewed, simply had an
> advantage over us on short courses.  A little puff, and they accelerate
> regardless of the big sail area of the the B49.
>
> Don't know if this helps?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 -84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
> PS:    Now after the race(s), the B49 had cabin heat, hot popcorn from the
> microwave, plenty of adult beverages, the Playboy channel on the big screen
> TV, other 'eye candy', in high Summer in bikinis.....finishing last had
> it's benefits, I guess.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *andrew rothweiler
> *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 7:29 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Comparing boats for purchase
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Requesting some advice about interpreting data/stats on 2 boats I'm
> considering for purchase.  Having a boat that has the traveler and genoa
> winches easy to reach from behind the helm is a key factor for me so that
> control/single handing will be easier.
>
> Also, I'm using PHRF numbers to help determine which boat might be more
> competitive in  club races.
>
> So the two boats are a C&C 35-2 and a CS 36T.
>
>
>
> The stats I'm using are from the PHRF site and SailboataData.com:  (don't
> know how this chart will come out on the forum)
>
>
>
>                                                       LOA  LWL  B
> D      SA         DISP      SA/DISP   DISP/LWL   FORE/MAIN SAIL AREAS
>
>
>
> C&C 35-2  PHRF 123-139-126    35'     30.77  10.58   5.58   629sf
> 13,800      17.56         224.34          352.5/276.75
>
>
>
> CS    36T   PHRF 123-135-126    36.5   29.92  11.5     6.35   640sf
> 15,500      16.53          258.34         367.5/272.53
>
>
>
> My main question is how can the CS36 have a nearly identical PHRF to the
> C&C when the CS 1) weighs almost 2,000lbs more and 2) doesn't compensate
> for the weight with a lot more sail area, the total sail areas being almost
> the same?
>
> What other factors must be considered in understanding why a similar size
> boat with almost the same waterline and sail area but weighs a ton more has
> the same PHRF? What am I missing?   Which of the two boats would do better
> in club races and around the marks?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your help in understanding this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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