We are not allowed to have heaters or any other electrical devices plugged in overnight. I am in Branford ct. I am interested in thought on this issue and why a properly winterized boat needs to be heated.
John Maturo 203-494-6782 Ashe Baltic 39 > On Jan 7, 2014, at 22:59, "cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: friggin COLD (Della Barba, Joe) > 2. Re: Instrument Panel Advice (Ken Heaton) > 3. Re: friggin COLD (Brent Driedger) > 4. Re: Instrument Panel Advice (Graham Collins) > 5. Re: friggin COLD (Jake Brodersen) > 6. friggin COLD (Robert Abbott) > 7. Re: friggin COLD (Brent Driedger) > 8. Which is my boat? (Peter) > 9. Re: friggin COLD (Russ & Melody) > 10. Re: Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" > (Russ & Melody) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 18:19:23 -0500 > From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD > Message-ID: > <1073606396712942aee54d9a960e45a718c932b...@hq-mb-07.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Power came back - but THANKS! > Btw- what do you all set your boat heaters to? I have been trying to keep the > cabin around 50. > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel > Aronson > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:11 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD > > Let me know if you need a place to stay. Fawcetts had generators in stock > this past weekend. > > Joel > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/d1121668/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:21:20 -0400 > From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Instrument Panel Advice > Message-ID: > <caabfp6sglt+x5+sk1pdtir+4zs1jvr9dd3rgrlnqfsoava3...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi Josh, Edd, > > I just put the whole collection up for fun. There are more single tier > panels like mine (the 4th photo in the set) and not as many two tier like > yours. There are a few other variations, such as the ones with different > breaker panels (usually the boats built in '93 or '94) and a couple with > all wood panels which look nice too. The white one in Blue Pearl is > different. There are two from your SeaHawk in there too. > > Ken H. > > >> On 7 January 2014 17:38, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Edd, >> Her are the pics you requested. I suppose it probably needs two more >> latches in the middle. It has a little rattle right now but being that we >> didn't have solid plans I didn't want to make drastic modifications. >> >> Ken, >> You can add my Nav Station to your collection. I cleaned off the winter >> projects just for you. >> >> https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yNGhiaThMcFdtWUU/edit >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >>> On Jan 7, 2014 3:25 PM, "Josh Muckley" <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Edd, >>> >>> I'll get pics today. 1/4" plexi would work well. The 1/8" was actually >>> too thin for the latches to latch on the back panel. I had to thicken it a >>> little. >>> >>> Josh >>>> On Jan 7, 2014 10:37 AM, "Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Josh, >>>> >>>> I would love to see some pics. I was thinking of going with black >>>> semi-translucent panels that could give me some easy access and be easy to >>>> cut into. And, I could put ?bridge graphics? in the areas where I have >>>> nothing (http://i.imgur.com/4nchY.jpg) >>>> >>>> Could make for an interesting project. I just getting tired at looking >>>> at a LORAN unit that I never use ? I don?t even think they are transmitting >>>> LORAN anymore. >>>> >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Edd >>>> >>>> >>>> Edd M. Schillay >>>> Starship Enterprise >>>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >>>> City Island, NY >>>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >>>> Website<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >>>> >>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Edd, >>>> >>>> I got a 2'x4' sheet of 1/8 inch ABS black plastic (grainger item 1ZBT4 = >>>> $25.30). I cut and rounded the corners and filed/sanded the edges. Then I >>>> also got some quarter turn latches (EMKA #ELH-861 in black = $6.65 x4). I >>>> cut the plastic sheet to take up the whole height and width of the >>>> section. I had to cut holes in the exsisting material for the latches to >>>> fit through. When I'm ready to put something in that section, it is going >>>> to have a really nice means of access, kinda similar to the stock switch >>>> panel. >>>> >>>> I'll send pics if I get a chance. >>>> >>>> Josh Muckley >>>> S/V Sea Hawk >>>> Solomons, MD >>>>> On Jan 6, 2014 5:23 PM, "Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Listers, >>>>> >>>>> The previous owner had some electronics installed (a LORAN, car stereo, >>>>> old autopilot control, etc.) that I?m thinking of removing. >>>>> >>>>> I?d love to hear from people who have removed large units from their >>>>> instrument panel and what you did with the rectangular holes left behind. >>>>> Any advice, tips or photographs would be great. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> >>>>> Edd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Edd M. Schillay >>>>> Starship Enterprise >>>>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >>>>> City Island, NY >>>>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >>>>> Website<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/58051413/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:39:25 -0600 > From: Brent Driedger <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD > Message-ID: <88f1a8b8-7d2f-4d40-9b22-ce7c20ba1...@highspeedcrow.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Out here in what we call Winterpeg it's been below -30c every night now for > pretty much 3 weeks. The coldest low has been -37c (-34f) with a windchill of > -58F. We adapt to it but it sucks. Nothing works properly, cars freeze up, > batteries take a beating and just looking into the wind will cause skin to > freeze in less than a minute. As a contractor I'm outside a lot and it's a > challenge to keep heating equipment working properly when it's like this. > We're no Hero's. We're just frigging tired of the cold. -13c is the normal > high right now. I'd be happy with -20 even!! > > Brent Driedger > 27-5 > Very frozen Lake Winnipeg. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 7, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> My biggest complaint with the 20?F afternoon temperatures is the lock on the >> boat was frozen. What little water had accumulated in the bildge wasn't >> even frozen. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> >>> On Jan 7, 2014 3:51 PM, "Marek Dziedzic" <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> +1 C (33 F) 3 weeks on Baltic See with no heater, purely under sail. I >>> though that for sailing it was cold enough. I guess I am a wuss. >>> >>> Does it count ?20 C (-4 F) on an ice boat? >>> >>> Marek (in Ottawa, ?15.5 C, 4 F at the moment) >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:51:03 -0500 >>> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD >>> Message-ID: >>> <1073606396712942aee54d9a960e45a718c932b...@hq-mb-07.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> So what is the coldest weather anyone has sailed in? >>> 19 degrees is my record low for sailing and that was cold enough for me! >>> >>> Joe Della Barba >>> Coquina >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/3479d1bb/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:48:17 -0400 > From: Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Instrument Panel Advice > Message-ID: <blu0-smtp11136fc2ad770a333a471dbd8...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Hi Edd > LORAN transmissions stopped a couple of years ago and the transmission > towers were torn down. But there is a new kid in town, eLoran - a > higher tech version. It is being trialed in places where GPS is not so > hot (far north) and in areas where either GPS failure or GPS jamming > would be a catastrophe - south Korea, and the English Channel... > > You would need a new unit, so it is safe to turf the one you have. > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > >> On 2014-01-07 11:37 AM, Edd Schillay wrote: >> Josh, >> >> I would love to see some pics. I was thinking of going with black >> semi-translucent panels that could give me some easy access and be >> easy to cut into. And, I could put "bridge graphics" in the areas >> where I have nothing (http://i.imgur.com/4nchY.jpg) >> >> Could make for an interesting project. I just getting tired at looking >> at a LORAN unit that I never use --- I don't even think they are >> transmitting LORAN anymore. >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, NY >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website >> <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >> >> On Jan 6, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com >> <mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> Edd, >>> >>> I got a 2'x4' sheet of 1/8 inch ABS black plastic (grainger item >>> 1ZBT4 = $25.30). I cut and rounded the corners and filed/sanded the >>> edges. Then I also got some quarter turn latches (EMKA #ELH-861 in >>> black = $6.65 x4). I cut the plastic sheet to take up the whole >>> height and width of the section. I had to cut holes in the exsisting >>> material for the latches to fit through. When I'm ready to put >>> something in that section, it is going to have a really nice means of >>> access, kinda similar to the stock switch panel. >>> >>> I'll send pics if I get a chance. >>> >>> Josh Muckley >>> S/V Sea Hawk >>> Solomons, MD >>> >>> On Jan 6, 2014 5:23 PM, "Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com >>> <mailto:e...@schillay.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> The previous owner had some electronics installed (a LORAN, car >>> stereo, old autopilot control, etc.) that I'm thinking of removing. >>> >>> I'd love to hear from people who have removed large units from >>> their instrument panel and what you did with the rectangular >>> holes left behind. Any advice, tips or photographs would be great. >>> >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Edd >>> >>> >>> Edd M. Schillay >>> Starship Enterprise >>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >>> City Island, NY >>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website >>> <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/ed3dcd90/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:41:24 -0500 > From: "Jake Brodersen" <captain_j...@cox.net> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD > Message-ID: <09c601cf0c12$bdf7ec00$39e7c400$@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Joe, > > > > I need to move my boat from Hampton to Gloucester tomorrow. It should be > 16F tomorrow morning when I depart. Hopefully it will only be a five hour > transit. Sure wishing I had some heat onboard. Hope the beer in the fridge > hasn't frozen yet. > > > > Jake > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della > Barba, Joe > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:51 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD > > > > So what is the coldest weather anyone has sailed in? > > 19 degrees is my record low for sailing and that was cold enough for me! > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/098e5998/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:13:50 -0400 > From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List friggin COLD > Message-ID: <52ccb45e.3000...@eastlink.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Jake: > > On April 3, 1991, the skipper and I sailed his newly purchased 1985 C&C > 33 II from Lunenburg to Halifax, approx. 45 miles. While the new owner > was finalizing the purchased of his boat on shore, I was removing 1/2" > of ice from the deck with a rubber hammer while the boat sat on a > mooring infront of the owner's home.....I brought my full ski gear > including my clear goggles....good thing to because an hour after we > left for Halifax, we ran into a snow squall as thick as any fog I have > encountered. Main up and a 135% jib and we were sailing....heard some > fishermen on the VHF talking about us leaving Lunenburg harbor in a > 'white out', went something like who would be crazy enough to be doing > that! That would be us! > > The list has been talking to Curtis about being safe on his offshore > March sail....here we were, the two of us, taking a boat we had not been > to sea on before, coming up the Nova Scotia coast in winter, no heat > other than the stove/oven (we warmed up pizza in the oven), no GPS, a > Loran C which neither had any experience with, no radar, just paper > charts and a binnacle compass.....8 long hours later we made to the > Armdale Yacht Club. > > Dennis, I could tell many stories of how dumb, and lucky, I have been > over the years on the water. Does anyone want another one? > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > >> Joe, >> >> I need to move my boat from Hampton to Gloucester tomorrow. It should >> be 16F tomorrow morning when I depart. Hopefully it will only be a >> five hour transit. Sure wishing I had some heat onboard... Hope the >> beer in the fridge hasn't frozen yet. >> >> Jake >> >> *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of >> *Della Barba, Joe >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:51 PM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List friggin COLD >> >> So what is the coldest weather anyone has sailed in? >> >> 19 degrees is my record low for sailing and that was cold enough for me! >> >> */Joe Della Barba /* >> >> */Coquina/* >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/fbd79f3b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:58:33 -0600 > From: Brent Driedger <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD > Message-ID: <4199c2f5-85cc-45ed-8984-7de80f131...@highspeedcrow.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Rob, reading tales like that is what helps us get through the winter. Keep > them coming. Nice to hear about a 33 sailing offshore. Those have a fairly > big flat spot in the hull in front of the keel, did she provide a comfortable > ride? We have two at our club and the owner of one told me once how one day > in some very large steep waves, typical of Lake Winnipeg, he actually had a > transducer punched out of the hull that had been mounted in the flat spot. > Poor install perhaps? Too big a hole? It left me wondering. > 33-2 is one of my very favourites. > > Brent Driedger > 27-5 > Lake Winnipeg > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 7, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> wrote: >> >> Jake: >> >> On April 3, 1991, the skipper and I sailed his newly purchased 1985 C&C 33 >> II from Lunenburg to Halifax, approx. 45 miles. While the new owner was >> finalizing the purchased of his boat on shore, I was removing 1/2" of ice >> from the deck with a rubber hammer while the boat sat on a mooring infront >> of the owner's home.....I brought my full ski gear including my clear >> goggles....good thing to because an hour after we left for Halifax, we ran >> into a snow squall as thick as any fog I have encountered. Main up and a >> 135% jib and we were sailing....heard some fishermen on the VHF talking >> about us leaving Lunenburg harbor in a 'white out', went something like who >> would be crazy enough to be doing that! That would be us! >> >> The list has been talking to Curtis about being safe on his offshore March >> sail....here we were, the two of us, taking a boat we had not been to sea on >> before, coming up the Nova Scotia coast in winter, no heat other than the >> stove/oven (we warmed up pizza in the oven), no GPS, a Loran C which neither >> had any experience with, no radar, just paper charts and a binnacle >> compass.....8 long hours later we made to the Armdale Yacht Club. >> >> Dennis, I could tell many stories of how dumb, and lucky, I have been over >> the years on the water. Does anyone want another one? >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S. >> >> >>> Joe, >>> >>> >>> >>> I need to move my boat from Hampton to Gloucester tomorrow. It should be >>> 16F tomorrow morning when I depart. Hopefully it will only be a five hour >>> transit. Sure wishing I had some heat onboard? Hope the beer in the >>> fridge hasn?t frozen yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jake >>> >>> >>> >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della >>> Barba, Joe >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:51 PM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD >>> >>> >>> >>> So what is the coldest weather anyone has sailed in? >>> >>> 19 degrees is my record low for sailing and that was cold enough for me! >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Della Barba >>> >>> Coquina >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/bf400182/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:45:28 -0700 > From: "Peter" <pe...@cruisingnet.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Which is my boat? > Message-ID: <00f601cf0c24$160647a0$4212d6e0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am trying to ensure that my paperwork is in order. And of course I noticed > a discrepancy in the serial number in different documents. So I thought I > would go to the source, namely the boat. However, the boat does not seem to > agree with itself. According to the hull, the boat's serial number is > 390600773. According to the C&C plate in the cockpit however the serial > number is 39006074. > > See the pictures here: http://www.cruisingnet.com/cc.html > > Looking back through the documentation I have going way back to 1974, I have > some documents that list one number, while others list the other. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > Kind Regards, > Peter White > Outrider > C&C 39 > Sonora, Mexico > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:53:01 -0800 > From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD > Message-ID: > <mailman.296.1389153543.15846.cnc-list_cnc-list....@cnc-list.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > > -10 C , 14 F - Seattle to Sidney, January 2005. > Delivering Sweet to home port, Nanaimo. > > We had a parabolic propane fired camping heater, > only used when stopped. The hatch froze one > morning so it took awhile to thaw with the stove > running before I could get to the cockpit where > the 20# bottle for the (disconnected) heater was sitting. > > Otherwise we had lots of candles burning too. > > (Second coldest was -5 C, Princess Louisa Inlet, March 1995... priceless!) > > Cheers, Russ > Sweet 35 mk-1 > > At 12:51 PM 07/01/2014, you wrote: >> +1 C (33 F) 3 weeks on Baltic See with no >> heater, purely under sail. I though that for >> sailing it was cold enough. I guess I am a wuss. >> >> Does it count ?20 C (-4 F) on an ice boat? >> >> Marek (in Ottawa, ?15.5 C, 4 F at the moment) >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:51:03 -0500 >> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List friggin COLD >> Message-ID: >> <1073606396712942aee54d9a960e45a718c932b...@hq-mb-07.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> So what is the coldest weather anyone has sailed in? >> 19 degrees is my record low for sailing and that was cold enough for me! >> >> Joe Della Barba >> Coquina >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/35e5cd5d/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:58:59 -0800 > From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some > Guidance" > Message-ID: > <mailman.297.1389153543.15846.cnc-list_cnc-list....@cnc-list.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > > That's a great idea Curtis. > > BVIs are the best entry sailing in the Caribbean. > Good choice. It can be windy, and with the sandy bottom set a long anchor > rode. > > And remember: > Good decisions are based on Experience. > Experience, is based on bad decisions > (but that is also were the best stories come from, now isn't it!) > > Cheers, Russ > Sweet 35 mk-1 > > At 06:48 PM 06/01/2014, you wrote: >> We are in the process of setting a bareboat >> charter in the BVI for April.7 Days. I hope we >> are ready for that. We are going with a couple >> that the husband sailed from the hamptons to >> Bermuda twice and went to some sailing school in >> Annapolis. Great people should be fun I hope to learn a lot from him. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Curtis >> <<mailto:cpt.b...@gmail.com>cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Great advice, thankyou. >> I will p below. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Antoine Rose >> <<mailto:antoine.r...@videotron.ca>antoine.r...@videotron.ca> wrote: >> Curtis, >> Here are a few tips, based on the assumption >> that you checked the boat and the whether before leaving. >> >> - On the ocean, running non-stop 24 hours a day >> on a C&C 30, with no tide to take into account, >> my best day ever was 152 miles. A little over >> 6,25 knots average, which meant running at seven >> knots to compensate for all the time when I was >> making only 5 knots and half. It was really fast >> for a C&C 30. Regular days were more like 110 to >> 120 miles, averaging 4,5 to 5 knots, sails only, >> not motoring. I would use this as a basis for >> your calculation, unless you want to hear the engine running. >> >> - Near shore, meaning within a 5 miles distance, >> you can benefit from the land wind (not sure >> about the exact term in English) created by the >> differential of temperature between land and >> sea. That is a plus because in continental >> weather, the wind often drop at night. >> >> - Currents, whether river currents, ocean >> currents or tide currents, are generally >> stronger in deeper water. So if staying closer >> to shore usually means reduced water depth, it will slow the current speed. >> >> In the end this is the trade off: closer to >> shore may mean better wind at night, but >> potentially a slower tide current. Also, beware >> of fishermen gears in shallow waters. >> >> A word about the moon. It's reassuring to have >> it there because it's less dark and looks >> familiar. However, with a full moon, land marks >> and lights becomes harder to see and recognize. >> The main advantage is to make it easier to spot >> other ships (don't count on being spotted). I >> personally prefer it darker with a small or no >> moon at all, especially when there is no >> overcast. In darker conditions, good landmarks >> are easy to spot, especially if you stay, say, >> four miles at least from shore to move away from >> most land lights, you don't have to worry about >> shoals and can focus on enjoying the night. >> >> Don't stand on the rail to pee overboard at >> night. The number of drown guys found with their >> pants open is significant. Take the time to go down inside. ;-) >> >> Get well prepared. Transcribe on a separate >> piece of papers your tide information, the >> lights you are supposed to see and when. Prepare >> in advance the night snack. Most important, be well dressed and have fun. >> >> Antoine (C&C 30 Cousin) >> >> >> Le 2014-01-06 ? 20:21, Curtis a ?crit : >> >>> What would anybody do? I would first cry out >>> "OH GOD OH GOD" Then I would calm my self. I >>> have a cable driven edson Wheel. I also have an >>> emergency fitting in the cockpit floor were a >>> tiller can be attached. I have the emergency >>> tiller in the forward birth. If I lost the >>> rudder I would "heave too" and call sea-tow with my GPS location. >>> If I lost an exhaxh hose I would Shut down the >>> engine turn off the seacock, Heave too and call sea-tow. >>> If I Lost power I have a hand held VHF and a >>> cell phone. I would follow a magnetic course >>> west until I had sight of land then Heave too and fire a flair or two. >>> Lets face it 14 miles out or 3 1/2 hours out 3 >>> 1/2 hours back and 14 miles up the river. >>> Almost 48 miles of the trip will be in sight of land.7 hours off shore. >>> I have not taken a safety at sea course? But >>> that I would love to find local if you know of >>> a place in the Savannah -HHI- Beaufort or >>> Charleston area I would like to take one. For sure. >>> Thanks Curtis >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM, dwight veinot >>> <<mailto:dwight...@gmail.com>dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Curtis >>> >>> >>> What is your plan if you lose steering, say >>> because of a broken cable, or worse if you lose >>> the rudder altogether?what would you do if the >>> prop got snagged in fishing gear?what if a >>> through hull started to leak fast or your >>> engine exhaust pipes broke and water started to >>> flood the engine compartment or if you lost all >>> electrical power. Have you taken a safety of life at sea course lately? >>> >>> Dwight Veinot >>> Alianna >>> C&C 35 MKII >>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Curtis >>> <<mailto:cpt.b...@gmail.com>cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I have a newly installed engine in the boat. I >>> installed it my self. Its a 2gm20F >>> Runs like a top. it was no easy task, I learned >>> a lot through the process. I don't want to do >>> it ever a gain. However it gave me a classroom >>> environment to learn the systems on my boat >>> like none other. Almost no sailor on my docks >>> has the skill to clean water out no there fuel >>> system. to challenge them to do maintenance on >>> there boat is quite sad. I'm keenly aware of >>> the safety of the systems on my boat, from >>> swedge fittings to keel bolt tension, to extra >>> belts filters, I even keep an extra >>> injector. I know the boat is able and ready. >>> Now me you may have some reason for concern. I >>> have not done an overnight before. This will be >>> my first. I'm 45 to 90 days out. I have to >>> learn some ware. I have been sailing the waters >>> of Port Royal sound and St Helena sound the >>> Morgan river to the north and the Broad rivet >>> to the south. and Again there will be a capable >>> sailor on board. He has been instructed to let me do it!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> <http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2013-10-30T10:46:00-07:00&max-results=3&start=3&by-date=false>http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2013-10-30T10:46:00-07:00&max-results=3&start=3&by-date=false >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Curtis >>> <<mailto:cpt.b...@gmail.com>cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I will have a capable sailor with me But i will >>> insist right up till point of peril to do it >>> singled handed including the leg work and >>> learning as with all these questions. >>> >>> my wind is most always out of the south so I >>> will steam out with the out going tide under >>> flat conditions I get 6 knots at 2500 rpm's with a clean bottom. >>> I would hope to have the afternoon winds at my >>> back. the southerly breezes are most always out >>> of the south. if that's the case I will be on >>> the way back in at the last of the turnaround >>> of the tide. So my outgoing tide will just >>> starting to go back out. That may allow me to >>> put my boat right-into her birth. I nose into >>> my birth and the outgoing tide is on my nose giving me steering. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Curtis >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:52 PM, dwight veinot >>> <<mailto:dwight...@gmail.com>dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Curtis >>> >>> Count on taking more time?averaging about 6 in >>> a C&C 30 may be wishful?are you steaming all >>> the way or sailing?Hope your motor is reliable >>> and strong?if you get your first big trip >>> figured out that good before hand I would say >>> you have a career ahead in sailing?will this be alone or with crew >>> >>> >>> Dwight Veinot >>> Alianna >>> C&C 35 MKII >>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Curtis >>> <<mailto:cpt.b...@gmail.com>cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> So I'm as some of you know in the process of >>> moving to the next step in my training. I'm in >>> the planing stages of my first over-night near >>> shore passage. I will leave early am: 4:00 with >>> a full moon to help and head out to the "R 4" >>> F1 R4s @ 32-05,901"N 080-35,099W this is the >>> channel into Port Royal sound Beaufort SC. >>> I intend to sail out with the tide its a 19 >>> mile ride I figure 5.5 knots of speed? That >>> will put me there at Day break or just after 3.45 hrs. >>> Then run straight east for 5nm to >>> 32-029'899N 080-29'988 W That will take a nother 90 min, >>> Here, I will turn south to 32-03,997W 080-29'167W 1.92 miles = 34min >>> Here i will turn back west to 32-03'984W >>> 080-34'965w this 4.92 leg take .89 min >>> Then I will turn North to will bring me the >>> 4.92 nm back to to the "R 4" F1 R4s @ >>> 32-05,901"N 080-35,099W the bell marker at the >>> mouth of the channel. Then my hope will be to take the the Tide back in. >>> So here is the question." If I do this near >>> shore how much will the tide effect my timing >>> in the course: I plugged in the 5.5 based off motor speed. >>> All together time from the dock and back to the >>> dock. 10.956 hours to cover 60.26nm >>> How much time will the tide cost me off shore? >>> I know a bought the tide in and out of the >>> river. Just need help with the offshore expectation? >>> Thanks again. let me know if you need more information. >>> LT >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ?Sailors, with their built in sense of order, >>> service and discipline, should really be >>> running the world.? - Nicholas Monsarrat >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ?Sailors, with their built in sense of order, >>> service and discipline, should really be >>> running the world.? - Nicholas Monsarrat >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ?Sailors, with their built in sense of order, >>> service and discipline, should really be >>> running the world.? - Nicholas Monsarrat >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ?Sailors, with their built in sense of order, >>> service and discipline, should really be >>> running the world.? - Nicholas Monsarrat >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ?Sailors, Deb and Ic'?tait ?crit >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ?Sailors, Deb and Ic'?tait ?crit >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140107/b2ba1e55/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 96, Issue 49 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
