Yes you are correct.

Thanks for clarifying.





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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 33 Mkii 1985 - Bildge/Power

Derek Leck - I think you're thinking of me (Colin) not Collins, no?



On 10/12/13, Derek Leck <derek.l...@metzgers.com> wrote:
> Yeah I was told it could be either but understand you had one of these
> boats and wasn't it you who told me about you repairs to the same?
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> On Oct 12, 2013, at 8:08 AM, "Graham Collins"
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>> Hi Derek (s)
>> I can tell you it is not a balsa core, the keel sump under the mast
>> step is filled with a high density foam of some sort.  Still smells bad tho'
>>
>> Graham Collins
>> Secret Plans
>> C&C 35-III #11
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>>> On 2013-10-12 8:49 AM, Derek Leck wrote:
>>> What a coincidence Derek. My name is Derek and I have the exact same
>>> boat and exact same problem. Apparently our boats have a defective keel 
>>> sump.
>>> This is the area under the mast step.  What I have learned is that
>>> there is a balsa wood core within the keel sump area. After years of
>>> use, especially the stresses of racing, grounding etc. the
>>> fiberglass structure of the keel sump becomes soft.  Now here comes
>>> the part you really don't want to hear. When this sump area gets
>>> weak the entire load of your rig, mast weight, stay tension, sailing
>>> loads etc, are no longer dispersed. Instead, all this force is
>>> directed in a very vulnerable area which is where the keel stub
>>> meets the hull. When you pull the boat you will most likely find a
>>> crack in your hull in this area. Just in front of the keel. This is
>>> why you are getting water in the bilge. The nasty water is due to the balsa 
>>> wood core rotting. I know it can smell terrible!
>>>
>>> The fix is substantial and that exterior crack is the least of our
>>> worries. ( This year will be the third attempt to  correct my issue).
>>> Previous attempts were a wast of time since they were merely
>>> cosmetic. As I understand the keel will need to be dropped, keel
>>> sump area has to be cut out and rebuilt. The entire area beneath the
>>> mast step should be reinforced with additional glass work and
>>> possibly aluminum or stainless plates.  My boat comes out this
>>> Monday and we'll find out exactly the extent of damages and cost to repair.
>>>
>>> I will keep you informed of my progress and I would like to hear
>>> about yours.  Feel free to reach out to me anytime.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> P.S.  Love my boat!!!!!  (When it's not leaking).
>>>
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>>> On Oct 12, 2013, at 12:36 AM, "Derek Stanger"
>>> <derek.stan...@yahoo.ca<mailto:derek.stan...@yahoo.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello to all.  My first post.
>>>
>>> I'm the new owner of a previously well loved C&C 33 mkii 1985.  I'm
>>> going through I think the normal new boat
>>> challenges/headaches/expenses...but
>>> in particular a couple that I'd like some advice on:
>>>
>>> 1.  Upon cleaning a really smelly,slimy bilge today (salt water,
>>> Vancouver BC) I noticed water spraying into the bilge from an old
>>> screw hole (low in the bilge, on forward side, used for holding bilge line).
>>> It stopped spraying/dribbling after approx. 10 min (and a bit of a
>>> panic).  I'm assuming the "putty" fill (as shown in the owners
>>> manual) forward of the bilge wall might have voids that fill with
>>> the raising water in the bilge?  When the bilge is emptied the water
>>> forward has some head to it and comes back into the bilge.  Does this all 
>>> make sense?
>>> Should I be concerned?  What can I do?
>>>
>>> 2.  With winter arriving, I've been trying to plug into shore power.
>>> Unfortunately our service is only 15 Amps.  All I have running is a
>>> smart charger (drawing 5 amps at 120V) and a saucer heater drawing 0.7 amps.
>>> The breaker on the shore panel keeps tripping.  I checked the
>>> charger by plugging it in direct...and all fine.  I bought a new
>>> cable with a more positive connection to the pigtail.  To no avail.
>>> So, I think I have a problem on the boat.  Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks.  Any thoughts appreciated.
>>>
>>> Derek Stanger
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