You say your sails are "rather old." If your sails are getting older the draft 
will have moved aft on both the main and genoa, and your genoa may have begun 
to develop a "hook" in the leech (if the leech has stretched and you've had to 
tighten the leech line to stop fluttering, this can make the hook more 
pronounced). Any of these issues will increase backwinding. Most people will 
tell you that carrying a "bubble" is fast, but that doesn't mean you should 
always carry a bubble or that a big bubble is even faster. You want your sails 
trimmed to maximize lift while minimizing drag. The min/max point may involve a 
bubble in the main, but go too far and you'll begin increasing drag and slowing 
down. With the cars fully aft you're opening the leech but you're also closing 
the foot and lower part of the sail, which is the part that overlaps the main 
the most. If it's draft-aft then its max draft may be right in the flow of air 
coming off the genoa. You've replaced your genoa and you might be ready to do 
the same for your main. BTW: I had the same problem, and I'm just about to 
write a check for new sails. Lots of discounts available in October. :)

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:37 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How to limit backwinding the main

I sheet the boom right on centerline or even a little above. I try to have the 
top batten parallel with the boom. Having the main fairly flat with the maximum 
draft about 40% aft helps, too. If the main is too full, you will get more 
backwind. If the genoa is old and the draft has moved back to the leech, you 
will get more backwind. But overall a little backwind is to be expected and not 
really a problem.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:11 AM, David Knecht 
<davidakne...@gmail.com<mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The discussion of C&C 34 in heavy air reminded me of a problem I had on my 34 
and similar issue on my 34+.  To me that means I am probably doing something 
wrong with sail trim.  I find that my mainsail is almost always backwinded by 
the genoa.  If I leave the traveller on the midline and sheet in the main and 
jib as I think is correct, a significant percentage of the main is luffing.  
The only solution I have found is to pull the traveller up 6" to a foot, which 
does not seem right.  I had thought that by moving the genoa tracks aft, I 
would open the leech more and that twist would minimize backwinding, but that 
does not seem to help much.  Both boats had rather old main sails, so possibly 
they have just lost their shape.  Genoa's are pretty old as well, but a new 
genoa on my 34 did not change the problem much.  So it seems more likely I am 
setting things up incorrectly.  Can the group comment on their extent of 
backwind and what you do if you want to limit it so you can maximize power.  
Thanks- Dave


David Knecht
Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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