Thanks Rick. I'm waiting for the adjuster in the next couple of days and will 
see what he proposes. I'm well aware of the pitfalls of straightening rudder 
stocks, and other stainless bits, and intend to replace the entire assembly. I 
suspect the keel will have to be dropped and rebedded as well. I'll report as 
things progress. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On Sep 30, 2013, at 19:05, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Rich;

If you want the long story of how I know this, I'll tell you off the list,
but FWIW:

The LF38 came with rudder shaft in 2 different diameters. The owner of the
LF38 formerly known as Banana Wind (which I think is now in Bayfield, WI)
can tell you more about this.

One of the diameters is 2 1/4" OD, and those rudder stocks were made two
ways. One was made from 2" schedule 80 stainless tube with a machined spud
welded to the top for the emergency steering and rudder support nut. The
other was machined from a 2 1/4" OD solid bar.

The shaft on my replacement rudder is the solid bar stock, and came from the
original rudder on Banana Wind.

If you need it, I still have the top 18" of my original rudder stock with
the machined spud still welded in place.

During my experience, I was told by a friend who is a metallurgist that you
weaken stainless (in my case the schedule 80 tube) by 30% or so when you
bend it, and by another 40-50% when you heat it to straighten it. It also
becomes more susceptible to crevice corrosion after heating. The blade from
my original rudder is somewhere on the floor of the Neuse River in NC, where
it fell off as the result of crevice corrosion where the rudder stock enters
the blade about 4 years after the original heat and bend repair of a bent
shaft.

I wish I had argued with the insurance company for a replacement rudder
instead of the heat and bend repair they paid for.

BTW, my replacement rudder came from Foss Foam in Florida, and cost about
$2800US in 2008/2009 including freight and using the rudder stock I provided
them. They probably still have the drawings for the rudder they supplied to
me.

Good luck on your project.


Rick Brass
Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1
la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1
Washington, NC





-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles
Rich
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:37 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bouncing Off a Shoal

Thanks for the sympathy:). Looks not too bad; bent rudder post, but I'll
know more later today when she comes out. I'll supply more amusement at that
time. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax



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