Well, at this junction, the vang attachment will be a ‘cheap and cheerful’
solution ... considering my boat is sitting at the dock with the engine pulled
for a rebuild. I did just splurge for new Harken blocks for the vang and the
backstay tensioner (the PO had one block configured back there with the line
tied off on the stern rail!).
But I’m trying not to look at mainsail traveller and think how it would be much
easier to replace it right now while the engine is out.
From: Dennis C.
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
Actually, my suggestion was to get only the bracket and clip the rope vang to
it.
Yeah, a Garhauer rigid vang would be the absolute bomb!
As for the pad eye, look at an investment cast one like a Schaefer 78-98.
Locate it as far down the mast as possible. Drill and tap into the back
Forward flat part) of the sail track. Install with flat head machine screws.
Attach the rope vang and go sailing.
I have a similar install on Touche' for an outhaul turning block and have done
same on other boats.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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From: Gary Nylander <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
I second Dennis' suggestion to get a Garhauer rigid vang. I did - and Guido
at Garhauer had me send the profile of the mast and boom and they made pads to
fit both. Six or eight screws for each. I drilled and tapped the mast and boom
and screwed the pads in - done!
We have a boomkicker on the J-80 I race on and I am not thrilled. It does the
job but seems to be more difficult to modulate how much tension you have. Just
my opinion.
Gary
30-1
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From: randy
To: 'Peter Fell' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
Personally, I wouldn’t suggest that. At least not if I’m picturing your
picture correct. Unless you unstep the mast, and take everything apart,
wouldn’t you have to go all the way thru the cabin? Most of us on the list
like to over drill holes in the core, and fill w/ epoxy, then drill for the
mounting. If you just punch holes thru, I’d be concerned about eventual water
intrusion thru the hole, which is undoubtedly solid something under the mast,
but working its way to the core elsewhere. Just my two cents. Bails on masts
are used for vangs all the time, especially on the smaller (no offense, me too!
;-) ) boats. But do also consider the addition of a rigid vang. I love my
boom kicker, fits in the mast track slot, and no topping lift! Just my two
cents. There’s lots of opinions here, you get to choose!
randy
Tamanawas
29-II
Hood River, OR
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Fell
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:12 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
Lots of good ideas here. Thanks guys.
What about through-bolting an eye pad on the mast step bracket itself? I’d
have to check the available space in there.
From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:01 AM
To: CnC
Subject: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
+1
I've had a Garhauer rigid boom vang for about 10 years. Good price for a
good chunk of stainless and a worthwhile upgrade.
Also gets rid of the topping lift!
sam :-)
C&C 26 Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta
From: Dennis C.
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:09 AM
To: Peter Fell; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Reply To: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
Peter,
A very good option would be install a hinged vang bracket near the bottom
of your mast. Garhauer makes these for their rigid boom vangs and will custom
make one to fit your mast. Their pricing is fairly reasonable.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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From: Peter Fell <prf...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
My C&C 27 has a mast-step that looks like this:
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/407/ubt7.jpg
The previous owner had attached the 4:1 purchase boom vang to the 45
degree side plate which has resulted in bending the side plate!
It was recommended to me to use a boom/mast bail bolted across the
vertical portion of the mast-step bracket at the aft-most set of holes, with a
bolt and filler ‘tube’ to avoid compressing the mast step bracket. Or to
replace the aft mast-retention pin with the same set-up.
Dimensions of the mast step (‘vertical’ bracket) are:
Outside width = 5 inches
Inside width = 4-1/4 inches
Hole diameter = 7/8 inches
Pin diameter = 5/8 inches
2 problems I am finding:
1) I can’t find a 5-inch wide bail
2) The larger size bails I have found (maybe 4 inch wide is the largest
I’ve seen?) use a smaller bolt than 5/8 inches and no meat to drill out the
holes in them, so there would be a lot of ‘slop’ there.
I’m also concerned that if the boom vang can bend that mast-step side
plate, what’s it going to do to a side-loaded bail and/or the vertical
mast-step bracket?
So ... perhaps a mast tang / hound? (much as I hate drilling holes in
the mast ... but multiple holes would spread the load). I have read somewhere
that part of the side of the standard C&C mast section is thicker which helps
with this sort of thing? Can anyone verify? Sorry, didn’t measure the mast
width. There’s also the sail track there that would complicate a tang / hound
installation.
By the way, the previous owner also bent the heck out of the through-bolt
on the boom bail. I’ve replaced that with a new SS bolt
Thanks!
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