Bob,

 

I bought my 29 Mk II in the fall of 2006. I suspected at the time that it
may had been grounded. The surveyor inspected it on the hard and said no. It
looked from the outside like a few cracks in the gelcoat. Ha!  In retrospect
I should have trusted my instincts.

 

Typically grounding damage will be more severe at the back end of the keel
where it meets the hull as there is a buckling/compression loads maximize at
this location. The narrow aft section of the stub keel on the 29 makes it
susceptible.

 

I had “gel coat cracks” at the front and back of the stub keel

 

I ended up grinding out the front and back end of my keel, which was done in
stages. The front was re-laminated out from the inner pan. We did this after
year 1. The aft end was also ground from inside and outside. There was some
very shabby repair work back there. While we were at it the entire keel box
and grid were reinforced. We did this last fall.  The front and back of my
keel are now Pearson Triton thickness and I have a bone dry bilge. We
learned more about the laminate about the stub keel/keel box of the 29 than
I ever wanted to know.

 

I have seen two other 29’s with clearance around the ½ keel bolt that you
describe. Mine had the clearance, but I attributed that to the fact the
original repair done in the yard in NH was not well executed.  

 

The advice from others on the site is sound. You would be best doing a short
haul and inspecting from the outside. The damage could propagate, in best
case adding to the cost of a future repair and potentially, putting you in a
situation that could worsen quickly at a time not of your choosing.

 

Unfortunately I didn’t take pictures, but you can call me to discuss the
configuration of the stub keel and bolts as the painful memories are forever
seared into my mind.

 

My cell is 516-669-2385

 

Sorry to hear about your experience. The upside is that with modern
materials ( epoxy and biaxial cloths), it can be made better than new. No
indictment of the fine work done at the C&C factories intended.

 

Kirk Sneddon

C&C 29 Mk II – Flying Cloud

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Hickson
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 6:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 29-2 keel bolts

 

I have a 29-2 that I bought a year ago.

Up until 3 weeks ago there were no leaks into the bilge around the keel
bolts / mast step.

The channel between the bay where I keep the boat and Lake Ontario is
currently under re-construction and dredging.

Three weeks ago, I hit a “pile of mud / sand” that they had left in the
middle of the channel at 5.5 knots.

The boat blew through the pile of mud but the impact was relatively severe
and it threw the entire crew off our feet.

Now I have visible seepage ( a cup full every ½ hour) around all the keel
bolts.

There are no visible signs of damage to the hull or structural “egg crate”
inside the hull.

Today, I removed the nut and washer from the small keel bolt (1/2 inch) at
the rear edge of the keel

Was very surprised to see a ½ inch bolt in a 1’ hole with no filler or
sealant between the sides of the hole and the bolt.

You can poke a screw driver 4 to 5 inches down into the hole beside the bolt
without felling any sealant at all.

This seems very strange....I would expect some kind of sealant to be present
around the bolt?

Does anyone know of a way to force sealant down into the water filled gap
around the bolt to seal it at least temporarily until haul out in the fall?

If successful on the small bolt, I will try the others one at a time.

 

 

Best regards,

Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA

C&C 29-2 Flying Colours

Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club

Pickering, ON

(416) 919-2297

 <mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com> bobhick...@rogers.com

 

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