For those not intimately familiar with the 27 series of boats, I have added the more commonly used (but not by C&C itself) mark designations to Rick's list. The last 3 listed, variations on the 3 or 5 depending on which nomenclature you choose to use, are completely different boats from those that came before.
Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII (or C&C-2 < 914 with the extra tall mast and 6" longer in the cockpit) Port Stanley, ON -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:50 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks! ---NOW PHRF RatingComparison Wow, Dwight. Based on the PHRF Red/White/ and Blue book information published by US Sailing, the guys with the 25 Mk1 and Mk2 in your area have the lowest ratings in North America and the guy wilt the 27-1 has close to the highest. Are these boats modified in any significant fashion? Following is the low, high, and mean base rating info for 2012 from 60 local PHRF fleets available on the US Sailing site. If you are a US Sailing member you can get all the specific ratings for each region - but that's a huge amount of data for over 5000 boat models HIGH, LOW, AND AVERAGE PERFORMANCE HANDICAPS ORGANIZED BY CLASS/TYPE Low High Mean C&C 25 IB 222 228 225 C&C 25 OB 210 231 219 C&C 25-2 207 228 216 C&C 25-2 IB 219 225 222 C&C 26 204 231 210 These "Marks" are what is commonly used for the 27s, although C&C 26 ENCOUNTER 213 222 216 it is true that C&C did not use these designations. C&C 27-1 IB 189 213 201 Mark 1 C&C 27-1 OB 192 198 195 Mark 1 C&C 27-1 TM 192 204 195 Mark 2 C&C 27-2 < 914 186 195 192 Mark 3 C&C 27-2 +915 189 198 192 Mark 4 C&C 27-3 IB 177 205 183 Mark 5 C&C 27-3 OB 174 179 174 Mark 5 C&C 27-3 SD 188 188 186 Mark 5 I note that the rating for the 27-3 IB is not divisible by 3, so the real rating is probably either 204 or 207. On balance, I guess I should be happy with the 222 rating for my 25 OB. And I'd guess the 25-2 base rating is lower than the 25-1 rating because the standard keel is 5" deeper than on the 25-1. But standard boat for standard boat, the numbers say the 25s and 26s should compete fairly closely. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:01 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks! And for what it's worth Sam but not to create an argument, the 25 MKI full keel will do a number on your 26 going to weather, both boats equally well sailed. Here are some local area handicaps for NS; C&C 24 222 C&C 25-1 207 C&C 25-2 207 C&C 26 219 C&C 27-1 207 Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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