I also have no blocks inside the boom, but I did have the first reef around the outhaul. I always wondered why that reef was so hard to put in. Six years it took me to figure that out.
On 30 December 2012 06:30, Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com>wrote: > Hi Joel > On mine there are no blocks inside the mast, my outhaul runs straight > through the boom, down to the mast collar at the deck, and aft on port > side. To adjust it we have to put it on a winch in all but very light winds. > > I think Keith (also a 35-3) has blocks internal to his boom, if I'm > recalling correctly he said 12:1, which means you could adjust it with two > fingers, but would have more friction obviously... if he is on maybe he can > confirm/deny that recollection. > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > > > Joel Aronson wrote: > >> Thanks. I usually sew the new and old lines end to end with whipping >> thread and then tape them. So far it has worked! The loose footed main >> removes a lot of friction. >> I have duct tape on the end of the boom to keep out the birds. I'll have >> to pull it and see what in there. I never really looked for blocks. >> >> Joel >> 35/3 >> >> >> On Dec 30, 2012, at 8:46 AM, dwight veinot >> <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca<mailto: >> dwightveinot@hfx.**eastlink.ca <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca>>> wrote: >> >> Joel >>> >>> I meant “loose foot” main sail, not open foot, please excuse a momentary >>> senior mental block. Also if you do try to remove those internal blocks >>> through the open back of the boom in order to replace the outhaul line it >>> helps to attach a messenger line to the loose end of the outhaul to assist >>> with reinstallation. >>> >>> If you use a cabin top winch to assist with outhaul control I am not >>> sure if the internal blocks which give the 4:1 purchase are necessary. I >>> think the outhaul would run out much easier in light air if they were not >>> present >>> >>> Dwight Veinot >>> >>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna >>> >>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ------------ >>> >>> *From:*CnC-List >>> [mailto:cnc-list-bounces@cnc-**list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >>> *On Behalf Of *dwight veinot >>> *Sent:* December 29, 2012 11:37 PM >>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Outhaul >>> >>> >>> Joel >>> >>> For some reason my 35 MKII has the same boom as the 35 MKIII and >>> therefore the “E” dimension is 12’ 5” which is the same as on the 35 MKIII >>> instead of 13’ 6” that was standard on the MKII design. The boom on my 35 >>> MKII is equipped with internal clew outhaul just as Ron described including >>> the internal block set that gives a 4:1 advantage on the outhaul and >>> therefore I expect that you will find these blocks inside of your boom. I >>> have not yet had any issue with the wire or the shackle damaging the boom >>> and with the Lewmar clutch forward of the cabin top winch I also use the >>> winch when hardening up on the outhaul. I found that this clew outhaul >>> system worked a lot better when I changed to an open foot main sail. >>> >>> Dwight Veinot >>> >>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna >>> >>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ------------ >>> >>> *From:*CnC-List >>> [mailto:cnc-list-bounces@cnc-**list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >>> *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson >>> *Sent:* December 29, 2012 9:22 PM >>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Outhaul >>> >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> Thanks. I should have mentioned its a 35/3. I don't think there are >>> blocks inside the boom, but I better check before I cut line. >>> >>> I thought that was the way to go but wanted the confirmation. >>> >>> Joel >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Ron Casciato <rjcasci...@comcast.net<mailto: >>> rjcasci...@comcast.net**>> wrote: >>> >>> Joel: Consensus seems to favor routing the line back to the cockpit and >>>> I would certainly agree…………You didn’t mention the size of your boat, so I’m >>>> not sure my system would be effective. My 38MKIIC boom has the outhaul line >>>> exiting the underside of the boom near the mast and is routed down to a >>>> block at the mast partner and then through a deck organizer to the >>>> stopper………….one advantage of that is that you can use the winch located on >>>> the cabin top to do adjustments when the load is too great for hand >>>> hauling. >>>> >>>> However, the line that exits the mast is run into my boom through a 4 >>>> purchase set of blocks ………one double block up front and a second double one >>>> further aft. That aft block has a becket that had the “wire” portion back >>>> to exit out of the aft end of the boom for the outhaul shackle…………. >>>> >>>> I found that after 10 years of this arrangement, the boom kept getting >>>> chewed up by the shackle when the outhaul was adjusted……….so this year, I >>>> replaced that portion of the outhaul with a 6-7’ section of Amsteel gray >>>> 3/8” West marine for short money for a spectra like line…………..that line now >>>> exits the aft end of the boom and is “tied directly to the main clew. >>>> >>>> The system works very smoothly and the Amsteel line has more strength >>>> than the original wire/rope configuration……….. >>>> >>>> Good luck with your conversion, >>>> >>>> Ron C. >>>> >>>> Impromptu >>>> >>>> C&C 38MKIIC……..’77 >>>> >>>> MassBay >>>> >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> *From:*CnC-List >>>> [mailto:cnc-list-bounces@cnc-**list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >>>> *On Behalf Of *Dennis C. >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:23 PM >>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Outhaul >>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds like you're close. Mine is external to the boom but runs to a >>>> block on a padeye on the aft side of the mast then to a stand up block on >>>> the deck then to a Spinlock PowerCleat by the companionway. Functionally >>>> the same set up as you describe. >>>> >>>> Dennis C. >>>> >>>> Touche' 35-1 #83 >>>> >>>> Mandeville, LA >>>> >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> *From:*Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com**>> >>>> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>**" >>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>**> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:25 PM >>>> *Subject:* Stus-List Outhaul >>>> >>>> >>>> While my teak is bleaching in the garage, I need some advice on >>>> my outhaul. >>>> >>>> It currently runs to the front of the boom through 2 sheaves >>>> back into the boom and exits the bottom of the boom between the >>>> vang and mainsheet where there is a cam cleat. When I replace my >>>> clutches I could run it to the base of the mast, through the new >>>> line organizer to the clutch. >>>> >>>> It is the original wire and rope line. I plan to replace it with >>>> 3/8 StaySet. >>>> >>>> Suggestions? >>>> >>>> -- Joel >>>> 301 541 8551 >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/**> >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >>> >>> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5495 - Release Date: 12/29/12 >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >>> >>> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5495 - Release Date: 12/29/12 >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >>> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC
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