Roger Shaw was the guy who did the Viking mod and he is no longer with us, so can't ask how much but he had Mars do the job after he and his crew using railway jacks in a big hangar, removed the swept back one.
Mike Robbins has a custom Goetz built cold moulded boat and he melted down a bunch of batteries about 500 lbs into a mould which was an extension of his tapered high aspect foil and then I think bolted it on and epoxied the holes. Because he and his dad homebuilt boats in collaboration with Steve Killing, he might have gotten advice there... ALEX GIANNELIA Phone (416) 203-9858 Fax (416) 203-9843 Cell (416) 529-0070 email: a...@airsensing.com WEB: www.airsensing.com -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: September 27, 2012 3:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 80, Issue 93 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Adding Keel Shoes (Alex Giannelia) 2. Re: Mystic Rendezvous Photos - Now Code Flags and Burgees (Indigo) 3. Re: Mystic Rendezvous Photos - Now Code Flags and Burgees (Pat Nevitt) 4. Re: Adding Keel Shoes (djhaug...@juno.com) 5. Re: Adding Keel Shoes (Rich Knowles) 6. Re: Adding Keel Shoes (djhaug...@juno.com) 7. Re: Adding Keel Shoes (Ron Casciato) 8. Re: Adding Keel Shoes (David Risch) 9. Re: Mystic Rendezvous Photos - Now Code Flags and Burgees (David Risch) 10. Andrews 28 (Hoyt, Mike) 11. Re: Mystic Rendezvous Photos - Now Code Flags and Burgees (Wally Bryant) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:44:08 -0400 From: Alex Giannelia <a...@airsensing.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Message-ID: <1820d770a1e128438825b476052dffb001067bc56...@vmbx111.ihostexchange.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Fred, Thanks for that info. I have been researching the issue of keel/rudder shape for quite some time and no conclusive answers. Some feel the elliptical ends are best (mainly for rudders) and there is another body of thought that the bottoms should be squared off. If aerodynamics and hydrodynamics were a real science, they would all look the same. I noticed the pre-Rob Ball designs had rounded bottom edges and the post 1980 designs had flat shoes. One now deceased sailor at our club in fact took his original swept back Viking 33 keel off, sent it to Mars and had it reshaped to look like the Rob Ball designs and got great pointing as a result. Another guy at another club simply melted old batteries and extended the keel as you did. Alex: I was fortunately able to get a drawing of the shoe from Rob Ball that extended the existing keel in all aspects. Once it was faired in you could not tell it did not come from the factory like that. As I recall the bottom of the keel was flat. Fred ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:07:50 -0400 From: "Indigo" <ind...@thethomsons.us> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos - Now Code Flags and Burgees Message-ID: <030117E1BC624CAE808A540BE5903070@JTDesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Edd, I believe that you are correct in saying that the use of code flags to dress ship is just a celebration. However, I caution that a "random" arrangement could be dangerous - after all each flag represents a letter or number and you could end up spelling out something unintentionally!! Our Club (which I believe got its flag etiquette from New York Yacht Club) recommends a specific sequence. As far as burgees are concerned, the skipper should fly the burgee of primary allegiance, or if a member of several clubs, the burgee of the club whose home waters he is in. (At PYC we are very traditional (some say "stuck up"!!) and fly our burgees at the masthead on pig-sticks (I think they got that name 'cos they are a pig to get up and down!) USPS says you should not fly more than one burgee at a time. Jonathan Indigo - 35MKIII Southport (soon to be on the hard in Milford) _____ From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:54 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos Danny, Glad to hear you like the graphics! As I understand it, the random letter code flags is just a celebration of all things nautical. On the Enterprise, we flew the American Flag (always on top), the Morris Yacht and Beach Club burgee (my club,) the Fleet Captain flag (I am the FC at MYBC) and a C&C burgee which I purchased from Stu. But don't worry. I often say "I don't know" to my wife too. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://ncc1701a.blogspot.com/> Website On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:33 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote: wow, great photos...I'm feeling quite disappointed for not having gone. I did get to go sailing on Sunday so I was there in spirit. Given all the issues I had to contend with I just couldn't plan on anything. Next year...! I love the Graphics on Enterprise! There are some really nice boats that showed up. I do have a question; For those of you that fly a bunch of burgees (if thats the correct term), what is the significance? My wife always asks and I always have to say "I don't know." Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 South Coast, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Stu" <s...@cncphotoalbum.com> To: "C&C Email List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:43:43 -0400 Rob Gallagher has posted some great photos of the rendezvous at: https://plus.google.com/photos/111441832096552932716/albums/5792114956547005 585/5792114978515809538?authkey=CLWWvti55dyMUQ Thanx for sharing Rob _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20120927/6418323d/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:28:35 -0400 From: Pat Nevitt <pnev...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos - Now Code Flags and Burgees Message-ID: <CACZht6_9vRhVfCM6nL91_TKxP-Jt8N=de5dhm0wox2m8aqd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" The procedure for "dressing" US Navy ships is very specific. To "full-dress" a ship, in addition to the large ensign at the stern, the jack, and an additional ensign at each masthead, a "rainbow" of signal flags and pennants arrayed from stem to stern, strung from the base of the jackstaff over the masts and then down to the base of the flagstaff. Ships that have no masts or an unsual mast configuration do the best they can to approximate the same effect. In the days of sail, a ship full-dressed by hanging every bit of bunting in its flag locker between the bowsprit and the mastheads, and down the shrouds and signal halyards (see the Sea Flags banner at the top of this page). This display usually included foreign ensigns, jacks, and admirals flags--everything the ship had on board. Nowadays, only signal flags are used, and the sequence in which they are displayed* is precisely prescribed by directive--*in the case of the U.S. Navy by NTP-13(B), *Flags, Pennants and Customs.* This guarantees a uniform appearance and ensures that no offensive or inappropriate messages are inadvertently (or mischievously) embedded in the display. Pat Nevitt *Patriot* C&C 29 MKII Galesville, MD On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Indigo <ind...@thethomsons.us> wrote: > Edd, I believe that you are correct in saying that the use of code flags > to dress ship is just a celebration. However, I caution that a ?random? > arrangement could be dangerous ? after all each flag represents a letter or > number and you could end up spelling out something unintentionally!! Our > Club (which I believe got its flag etiquette from New York Yacht Club) > recommends a specific sequence. > > > > As far as burgees are concerned, the skipper should fly the burgee of > primary allegiance, or if a member of several clubs, the burgee of the club > whose home waters he is in. (At PYC we are very traditional (some say > ?stuck up?!!) and fly our burgees at the masthead on pig-sticks (I think > they got that name ?cos they are a pig to get up and down!) USPS says you > should not fly more than one burgee at a time. > > > > Jonathan > > Indigo ? 35MKIII > > Southport (soon to be on the hard in Milford) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto: > cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:54 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos > > > > Danny, > > > > Glad to hear you like the graphics! > > > > As I understand it, the random letter code flags is just a > celebration of all things nautical. On the Enterprise, we flew the American > Flag (always on top), the Morris Yacht and Beach Club burgee (my club,) the > Fleet Captain flag (I am the FC at MYBC) and a C&C burgee which I purchased > from Stu. > > > > But don't worry. I often say "I don't know" to my wife too. > > > > > > All the best, > > > > Edd > > > > > > Edd M. Schillay > > Starship Enterprise > > C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > > City Island, NY > > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log > Website<http://ncc1701a.blogspot.com/> > > > > > > On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:33 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote: > > > > wow, great photos...I'm feeling quite disappointed for not having gone. > I did get to go sailing on Sunday so I was there in spirit. Given all the > issues I had to contend with I just couldn't plan on anything. Next > year...! > > > > I love the Graphics on Enterprise! > > > > There are some really nice boats that showed up. > > > > I do have a question; For those of you that fly a bunch of burgees (if > thats the correct term), what is the significance? My wife always asks and > I always have to say "I don't know." > > > > Danny > > Lolita > > 1973 Viking 33 > > South Coast, MA > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Stu" <s...@cncphotoalbum.com> > To: "C&C Email List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:43:43 -0400 > > > > Rob Gallagher has posted some great photos of the rendezvous at: > > > > > https://plus.google.com/photos/111441832096552932716/albums/5792114956547005585/5792114978515809538?authkey=CLWWvti55dyMUQ > > > > Thanx for sharing Rob > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20120927/df31a90f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:28:45 GMT From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Message-ID: <20120927.132845.2405...@webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow, How did he pay to have his keel reshaped? did they melt it and remold it? NO, I'm not considering it! LOL But... Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 South Coast, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Alex Giannelia <a...@airsensing.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:44:08 -0400 Fred, Thanks for that info. I have been researching the issue of keel/rudder shape for quite some time and no conclusive answers. Some feel the elliptical ends are best (mainly for rudders) and there is another body of thought that the bottoms should be squared off. If aerodynamics and hydrodynamics were a real science, they would all look the same. I noticed the pre-Rob Ball designs had rounded bottom edges and the post 1980 designs had flat shoes. One now deceased sailor at our club in fact took his original swept back Viking 33 keel off, sent it to Mars and had it reshaped to look like the Rob Ball designs and got great pointing as a result. Another guy at another club simply melted old batteries and extended the keel as you did. Alex: I was fortunately able to get a drawing of the shoe from Rob Ball that extended the existing keel in all aspects. Once it was faired in you could not tell it did not come from the factory like that. As I recall the bottom of the keel was flat. Fred _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:57:24 -0300 From: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Message-ID: <07e5c633-1230-4f6e-a2af-e49fcd20f...@sailpower.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Danny: it's a boat. You pay to have everything done unless you do it yourself. Then you pay twice. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2012-09-27, at 17:28, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote: Wow, How did he pay to have his keel reshaped? did they melt it and remold it? NO, I'm not considering it! LOL But... Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 South Coast, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Alex Giannelia <a...@airsensing.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:44:08 -0400 Fred, Thanks for that info. I have been researching the issue of keel/rudder shape for quite some time and no conclusive answers. Some feel the elliptical ends are best (mainly for rudders) and there is another body of thought that the bottoms should be squared off. If aerodynamics and hydrodynamics were a real science, they would all look the same. I noticed the pre-Rob Ball designs had rounded bottom edges and the post 1980 designs had flat shoes. One now deceased sailor at our club in fact took his original swept back Viking 33 keel off, sent it to Mars and had it reshaped to look like the Rob Ball designs and got great pointing as a result. Another guy at another club simply melted old batteries and extended the keel as you did. Alex: I was fortunately able to get a drawing of the shoe from Rob Ball that extended the existing keel in all aspects. Once it was faired in you could not tell it did not come from the factory like that. As I recall the bottom of the keel was flat. Fred _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:10:20 GMT From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Message-ID: <20120927.141020.2405...@webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rich, you said it! LOL I think twice is the bargain rate of doing it yourself! The question should have read; "How MUCH did he pay..." Danny ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:57:24 -0300 Danny: it's a boat. You pay to have everything done unless you do it yourself. Then you pay twice. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2012-09-27, at 17:28, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote: Wow, How did he pay to have his keel reshaped? did they melt it and remold it? NO, I'm not considering it! LOL But... Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 South Coast, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Alex Giannelia <a...@airsensing.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:44:08 -0400 Fred, Thanks for that info. I have been researching the issue of keel/rudder shape for quite some time and no conclusive answers. Some feel the elliptical ends are best (mainly for rudders) and there is another body of thought that the bottoms should be squared off. If aerodynamics and hydrodynamics were a real science, they would all look the same. I noticed the pre-Rob Ball designs had rounded bottom edges and the post 1980 designs had flat shoes. One now deceased sailor at our club in fact took his original swept back Viking 33 keel off, sent it to Mars and had it reshaped to look like the Rob Ball designs and got great pointing as a result. Another guy at another club simply melted old batteries and extended the keel as you did. Alex: I was fortunately able to get a drawing of the shoe from Rob Ball that extended the existing keel in all aspects. Once it was faired in you could not tell it did not come from the factory like that. As I recall the bottom of the keel was flat. Fred _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:24:35 -0400 From: "Ron Casciato" <rjcasci...@comcast.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Message-ID: <F8BD509FE006499CB20267E5B5F5711D@Aspire7736Z> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Alex, I'm pretty sure that Rob Ball was the responsible designer pre-1980 as well......... -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex Giannelia Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Fred, Thanks for that info. I have been researching the issue of keel/rudder shape for quite some time and no conclusive answers. Some feel the elliptical ends are best (mainly for rudders) and there is another body of thought that the bottoms should be squared off. If aerodynamics and hydrodynamics were a real science, they would all look the same. I noticed the pre-Rob Ball designs had rounded bottom edges and the post 1980 designs had flat shoes. One now deceased sailor at our club in fact took his original swept back Viking 33 keel off, sent it to Mars and had it reshaped to look like the Rob Ball designs and got great pointing as a result. Another guy at another club simply melted old batteries and extended the keel as you did. Alex: I was fortunately able to get a drawing of the shoe from Rob Ball that extended the existing keel in all aspects. Once it was faired in you could not tell it did not come from the factory like that. As I recall the bottom of the keel was flat. Fred _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:03:22 -0400 From: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes Message-ID: <blu168-w7007732a153b43a62dfe9bda...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Rob was head of design 1974-1994. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) 1981 40-2 > From: rjcasci...@comcast.net > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:24:35 -0400 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes > > Alex, I'm pretty sure that Rob Ball was the responsible designer pre-1980 as > well......... > > -----Original Message----- > From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] > On Behalf Of Alex Giannelia > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:44 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Adding Keel Shoes > > Fred, > > Thanks for that info. I have been researching the issue of keel/rudder > shape for quite some time and no conclusive answers. Some feel the > elliptical ends are best (mainly for rudders) and there is another body of > thought that the bottoms should be squared off. If aerodynamics and > hydrodynamics were a real science, they would all look the same. > > I noticed the pre-Rob Ball designs had rounded bottom edges and the post > 1980 designs had flat shoes. > > One now deceased sailor at our club in fact took his original swept back > Viking 33 keel off, sent it to Mars and had it reshaped to look like the Rob > Ball designs and got great pointing as a result. > > Another guy at another club simply melted old batteries and extended the > keel as you did. > > > Alex: > > I was fortunately able to get a drawing of the shoe from Rob Ball that > extended the existing keel in all aspects. Once it was faired in you could > not tell it did not come from the factory like that. > > As I recall the bottom of the keel was flat. > > Fred > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20120927/4d473f6f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:13:49 -0400 From: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos - Now Code Flags and Burgees Message-ID: <blu168-w121d513f4d84927886f7775da...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Corsair, an attendee of the Rendezvous, dressed ship conveniently (random order of flags). There are times when getting it right needs to take a back to other priorities...in this case getting Welcome Envelopes to arriving skippers. My yacht club burgee always flies from the starboard spreader. I tried the pig stick method but quite frankly it was the only external halyard on the mast and looked like crap. In addition getting it up and down the mast was a PIA...all the while beating the paint on the mast up yonder. So, belonging to one of the oldest clubs in the country, I had a bit of a discussion with our Commodore, who, with many other modern boat owners also chiming in, bent tradition and allow(ed) us to fly it from the starboard spreader. This is the one time I pushed back on yacht club tradition, and I have not looked back. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Corsair, 1981 40-2 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:28:35 -0400 From: pnev...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos - Now Code Flags and Burgees The procedure for "dressing" US Navy ships is very specific. To "full-dress" a ship, in addition to the large ensign at the stern, the jack, and an additional ensign at each masthead, a "rainbow" of signal flags and pennants arrayed from stem to stern, strung from the base of the jackstaff over the masts and then down to the base of the flagstaff. Ships that have no masts or an unsual mast configuration do the best they can to approximate the same effect. In the days of sail, a ship full-dressed by hanging every bit of bunting in its flag locker between the bowsprit and the mastheads, and down the shrouds and signal halyards (see the Sea Flags banner at the top of this page). This display usually included foreign ensigns, jacks, and admirals flags--everything the ship had on board. Nowadays, only signal flags are used, and the sequence in which they are displayed is precisely prescribed by directive--in the case of the U.S. Navy by NTP-13(B), Flags, Pennants and Customs. This guarantees a uniform appearance and ensures that no offensive or inappropriate messages are inadvertently (or mischievously) embedded in the display. Pat Nevitt Patriot C&C 29 MKII Galesville, MD On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Indigo <ind...@thethomsons.us> wrote: Edd, I believe that you are correct in saying that the use of code flags to dress ship is just a celebration. However, I caution that a ?random? arrangement could be dangerous ? after all each flag represents a letter or number and you could end up spelling out something unintentionally!! Our Club (which I believe got its flag etiquette from New York Yacht Club) recommends a specific sequence. As far as burgees are concerned, the skipper should fly the burgee of primary allegiance, or if a member of several clubs, the burgee of the club whose home waters he is in. (At PYC we are very traditional (some say ?stuck up?!!) and fly our burgees at the masthead on pig-sticks (I think they got that name ?cos they are a pig to get up and down!) USPS says you should not fly more than one burgee at a time. Jonathan Indigo ? 35MKIII Southport (soon to be on the hard in Milford) From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:54 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos Danny, Glad to hear you like the graphics! As I understand it, the random letter code flags is just a celebration of all things nautical. On the Enterprise, we flew the American Flag (always on top), the Morris Yacht and Beach Club burgee (my club,) the Fleet Captain flag (I am the FC at MYBC) and a C&C burgee which I purchased from Stu. But don't worry. I often say "I don't know" to my wife too. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:33 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote: wow, great photos...I'm feeling quite disappointed for not having gone. I did get to go sailing on Sunday so I was there in spirit. Given all the issues I had to contend with I just couldn't plan on anything. Next year...! I love the Graphics on Enterprise! There are some really nice boats that showed up. I do have a question; For those of you that fly a bunch of burgees (if thats the correct term), what is the significance? My wife always asks and I always have to say "I don't know." Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 South Coast, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Stu" <s...@cncphotoalbum.com> To: "C&C Email List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Mystic Rendezvous Photos Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:43:43 -0400 Rob Gallagher has posted some great photos of the rendezvous at: https://plus.google.com/photos/111441832096552932716/albums/5792114956547005585/5792114978515809538?authkey=CLWWvti55dyMUQ Thanx for sharing Rob _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What else is new. <VBG> <http://www.wbryant.com/weblogs/b4_0908/b4_00.jpg> Wal Indigo wrote: > Our > Club (which I believe got its flag etiquette from New York Yacht Club) > recommends a specific sequence. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 80, Issue 93 **************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
