Danny The axles in the pulleys for the steering cable below deck are built to fail when stressed hard as when the rudder goes over hard.I know this from experience with my Edson system on my 35 MKII.the axles in the pulleys on my boat have a small circumferential cut that creates the weakest link which I believe was intentional in the design.nonetheless the stop could also have been dislodged but if the rudder went hard and fast all the way to the stop I would suggest you check to make sure the axles in the below deck pulleys are still good..I broke one axle but with some difficulty I was still able to steer the boat.that's when I discovered that using the emergency tiller on a 35 MKII is not easy and requires removing the wheel.I was trying the reverse power of my H5 Autoprop propeller for the first time not realizing how much more power it had than my old 2 blade folding Martec prop and the boat developed such quick speed the wheel slipped right through my wife's hands spinning her sideways and causing her to crack her elbow pretty hard on the cockpit coaming.painful and bruised but thankfully no breaks and she was a good sport about it.I manufactured and installed a new axle in the pulley, adjusted the tension on the cable and have been going OK ever since that happened about 7 years ago
Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _____ From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: September 12, 2012 9:32 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure Okay so, Here is what I think may have happened. I think, when I let go of the wheel to help furl the headsail, the rudder swung hard to port and went right past the stop. This allowed the chain to roll right off the sprocket. When I was playing around with trying to get it back, I got the chain to cable fitting to go back over the steering shaft and the stop spindle on the rudder post wheel to slip back by the stop on the bulkhead. What good is a stop if it doesn't stop anything? Anyway I guess I should have engaged the break or tied off the wheel before I let it go. I'm going to head down tonight and try and remove the cable and chain to order a new one. I'm also going to get in the water and have a look at the prop and shaft as there is some mysterious vibration happening now...I wonder if the rudder managed to swing so far as to have bent the brand new $500.00 shaft I just installed... Or maybe it bent the strut... The wife is pretty disgusted in the whole ordeal. she feels we wasted and entire summer working on this boat only to have this happen and we're not done working on it and we can't go sailing because we need to make ANOTHER repair and waste more great weather working on the boat. I think she has also lost confidence in the boat... I tried to take all the blame myself saying we didn't do enough shake down sailing and that it was my fault for letting go of the wheel and allowing the rudder to swing... Her take is that we should be able to let go of the wheel in a troubled situation and not worry about becoming disabled...I tend to agree. As much as we both like the wheel I'm considering going back to the tiller...or I need to beef up the stops or find a better solution to prevent this from happening again. I think, knowing what I know now, I will be more careful about tying the wheel off. Or...I don't know,... it is hard to believe this has never happened before... Any insights are always appreciated... Don't worry about hurting my delicate sensibilities... LOL I have to try and get the boat back in the wife's good graces or I could really end up in a Catalina.... Danny ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:34:53 +0000 Friends don't let friends buy Catalina's, Hunter's, or Bayliner's. MartinCalypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle _____ From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:56 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure I hear ya, Russ... I'm not letting beat though...came close and the wife is saying..."Now I know why people buy the brand new Catalina..." ewwww you could have 2 or 3 catalinas for the price of the Sabre that I covet! If it hadn't been for the rough seas, the fast response of Tow BoatUS and the comfort level of my wife...I'd have dropped down below. As it turns out, if I had removed the cable or pulled the pin in the pedestal I probably would have had control again. I guess the thing is that, I had ot done anything with the steering sytem so I was not at all familiar with it...I should have known better. I just hope my wife forgives the Viking pretty quickly or she'll be pushing even harder for the Catlina...At least she isn't get out of boating all together! if worse comes to worse a catlina is better than no boat at all!!! LOL You can't beat the speed though...we were hitting 9 knots with the currents with just the head sail before all hell broke loose! lets see a catlina do that! LOL Danny _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5264 - Release Date: 09/12/12
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