Dennis, good luck. I feel for you - we did what Joe did when Isabel came up the Bay. But, we expected more wind than we got and moved most of the boats in the marina (small ones came out) and tied them facing the expected wind. Mine was strung between six pilings - ninety degrees from its usual spot.
I was clever - had extra long (double) lines to these pilings (one at the end of a finger pier) and rigged a line to move the boat over to the pier so I could get off and another to re-center it in between. Unfortunately, as I was making my last trip off the boat and onto the pier, I pulled the wrong line! Did the splits as the boat was moving away from the pier.... finally gave up and went swimming. Cute. Hope your scheme has been thought out better than mine. Gary Nylander ----- Original Message ----- From: Della Barba, Joe To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:11 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac..prepping for storm and surge During Isabel some idiots left lines tied to cleats bolted to the dock planks. Of course the surge pulled the planks right off the dock L I - having learned from Hurricane David the hard way - didn't use my normal dock lines with spliced loops. For Isabel I was able to let the lines in and out without climbing off the boat and risking tripping or breaking an ankle on the pulled up planks mentioned earlier. Best of Luck - I'll throw some rum in the bay to placate King Neptune. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:22 PM To: flasp...@dynamagic.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac..prepping for storm and surge Touche' is set for at least 6-7 feet of surge. Forecast is for 8-9 feet of surge in Lake Borgne which is connected to Lake Pontchartrain through The Rigolets and the Industrial Canal in New Orleans. I have 5/8 inch dock line run to a point high on my neighbors' pilings about 20 feet from Touche's bow chock. The stern lines are also "spiderwebbed" 10-12 feet further out to points high on pilings to permit the boat to rise. When I left the boat at 11 am this morning, the water was up about 1.33 feet. The bow dock lines were nearly horizontal. The stern lines actually slope downward slightly to the transom cleats. 6-7 more feet of rise over 20 feet of dock line isn't much angle. It's similar to letting out more anchor rode. Further, since the lines remain close to horizontal, the boat will remain centered in the slip. For any interested parties, you can monitor the water level in Lake Pontchartrain at: <http://www2.mvr.usace.army.mil/WaterControl/shefgraph-wotem2.cfm?sid=85575&d=7&dt=S> Many of my pier neighbors simply double their lines on their existing pilings. 6 feet of surge will have their lines pulling almost straight up. After Katrina, the rope marks on my neighbor's pilings were at about 60 degrees. That means the cleats were under a lot of stress. Also, with dock lines close to vertical, the boat will move side to side in the slip. With a beam wind, the boat could pound on the midships piling and get holed. Fortunately, we are far enough up the bayou that there isn't any wave action. Other steps were: Remove sails and canvas Tie bimini bows to deck and backstay Tie boom side to side Clip halyards to toe rail forward so they don't slap on the mast or spreaders Doubled spring line Moved boat forward in slip to align Touche's bow with its neighbors. We normally sit deeper in our slip. If we stayed in the same spot, our spiderwebbed bowlines would chafe on the neighbor's bow. Bad! Also emptied the dock box. It will flood. I keep most of the items in buckets or tubs so the box can be emptied in 3-4 trips. I installed a drain from an Igloo ice chest in the bottom of the dock box. I normally leave the cap on it. For surge events where I know it will flood, I remove the cap. The box floods then emptied as the water retreats. I simply hose it out and then wipe it dry with a rag. When you've been through these darn things a few times, you learn how to deal with them. Irritating as it is, you deal with it. Hopefully, Touche' and its neighbors will ride out the storm without damage. More importantly, let's hope the residents in the impact areas escape injury and property damage. We don't need another Katrina!!! Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Frame <flasp...@dynamagic.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac.. Thanks, a good point! Probably more for Dennis on /Touche/ and the rest of the fleet getting ready to wash and wear up there. We're in southwest Florida, Isaac passed us yesterday. On 08/27/2012 05:55 PM, Neil Andersen wrote: > Just make sure your tie down can handle a storm surge both ways. I have seen that the Weather Channel is calling for 7-12 ft near New Orleans... > > Good luck and Godspeed. > > Neil > C&C32, Worton Creek, MD. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Frame > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:23 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac.. > > > We took the main off and bagged it, and brought the main, jib, and genoa home for a washing. > > Moving from our slip down-canal a few hundred feet to a tie off point, we all forgot about the overhanging tree and promptly ran the mast into the branches. How the VHF didn't get ripped off the top is beyond me. > > Ran single lines across the canal, tied off to trees, and put our 24 in the middle. Checked it this morning. Not a budge. Doesn't even look like the flotsam moved. > > First "storm" with our first boat, so it's all still new and cool to us. > > > On 08/26/2012 10:10 PM, Jack Brennan wrote: >> We've had gusts to 55 or 60 in SE Florida, but really nothing more >> than a long, rainy day. Didn't bother boarding up. >> >> Took a looonng nap this afternoon after prepping the boat and taking >> home the roller furling jib, which needed some restitching on the >> protective cover. Did that while watching an old movie. >> >> Hopefully, the storm will stay weak as it heads up the Gulf. You folks >> on the Gulf coast have suffered enough. >> >> Jack Brennan >> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 >> Former C&C 25 >> Fort Lauderdale, Fl. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis C. >> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:18 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac.. >> >> Thanks, Colin >> >> We just got in from Pensacola. 2 1/2 days of really great sailing. >> Averaged 6.5 knots for the 164 nm trip. Even if Pensacola escapes, >> Touche's slip in Bayou Castine in Mandeville is very protected and I'd >> rather be here than anywhere on the coast. >> >> Did a bunch of storm prep after docking. Spider webbed the dock lines >> across the neighboring slips, dropped the headsail, took all halyards >> forward to the toe rails, etc. Staying on boat tonight and will >> finish pulling canvas, mainsail, and other stuff tomorrow. >> >> Already experiencing spot shortages and outages on fuel and supplies >> as people stock up. >> >> Bit of ironic deja vu, Hurricane Katrina devastated NOLA on August 29. >> Isaac will also make landfall on August 29. >> >> Let's hope the French Quarter and Pat O'brien's survive. >> >> Prayers and best wishes to all in Isaac's path. >> >> Dennis C. >> Touché 35-1 #83 >> Home in Mandeville, LA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 26, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Colin Kilgour <charliekilo...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Good luck to Dennis and the other Gulf Coasters & Ponchartrainers. >>> (And of course... all of NOLA - even if they're not C&C'ers) >>> >>> Be safe. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Colin >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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