As skipper, I bring the lunch, snacks & beer and buy the burgers. I also buy them each a ticket for the awards dinner if they want to attend. Normally only two or three attend.
I also encourage them to take the podium if, and when, we place. If there is a party at the club, they are welcome to crash on the boat no questions asked. I have a great crew and am grateful for their participation. All but one was on my old boat, an SJ24. At this stage, most of the yelling is left to (and on some occasions for) the other boats. Glen Eddie Freya IV-Toronto C&C 35 Mk I ________________________________ From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell Sent: July 25, 2012 2:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer? I think I'll sell my boat and crew for you! Gary S/V Expresso '75 C&C 35 Mk II EGYC On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:47 PM, <cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com>> wrote: I may be a little generous but as skipper I usually provide lunch sandwiches, drinks (water and Gatorade while racing, beer and liquor after racing is over) and snacks. If there is a dinner or party afterward where meal tickets are involved, I buy tickets for the crew expected on board usually at least 6. The boat is available for them to sleep on if the regatta is a 2 day affair, although if feasible I often pay for a motel room so that some of the crew and I get to crash off the boat. 6-8 men sleeping on a 36 footer is a little crowded, even though she is air-conditioned. I have crew that have been with me since they first came on the boat in 2004 and others that have joined over the years so that I now have a core crew of about 8, the most recent of which has been with me for over 1 year. I have not yet lost a good crew to another boat and several of the current crew knew nothing about sailing or racing when they joined. For the top crew, I provide associate memberships in our local, paper only racing clubs both to keep them up to date on club activities and to support the clubs at $25 per yearly membership. My crew chief (now in his 9th year on board) is responsible for the email crew calls, assigning duties on board and arranging for delivery crew, including himself pretty often. He knows the operation of the boat almost at my level and has delivered it with crew (without me on board) several times. I am always willing to have new crew on board and if they 'click' with me and the other crew, they get invited back. If not, and there have been a few of them, they are not asked back. The only ones not asked back in recent memory is one who thought he knew more about big boat racing than he did and another who was entirely too casual about it all. Both were competent sailors, however. Crew are totally responsible for all sail handling, including folding, rolling, removing, stowing, and reattaching, etc. as well as all line handling when I take her into the slip in reverse. Before and after racing, they get a chance to steer her both under sail and while motoring. Since I will be out of racing for the next 2 weekends for class reunions, the crew will race her without me in a ~ 20 mile distance race this Saturday and then in a 2 day regatta the following weekend for which I bought the crew dinner tickets. IMHO, I treat them as team mates who allow me to pursue my racing passion. Without competent crew, I could not race my 36 footer at all. This is not to say that they don't take a fair amount of abuse occasionally when there are the inevitable foul-ups during racing, nor are they bashful about giving the skipper some abuse when I lose concentration at the helm or put my skipper/boat owner nose into something that I don't need to while at the helm. We strive to win within our club racing circuit but most importantly we have fun. The above philosophy has worked for me since 2004 (when I got a new set of racing sails and decided to get 'serious' about my club racing) and we have slowly but steadily moved up in the standings as the boat, its handling and the skipper and crew have climbed the learning curve while having a great time. YMMV. Charlie Nelson Skipper Water Phantom C&C 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Nelson <nelson2...@eastlink.ca> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Wed, Jul 25, 2012 11:35 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer? As crew: I bring beer for skipper and crew. Lunch we usually fend for ourselves. Other crew bring snacks and rhum as required. Skipper brings boat, wisdom (usually) and a wack load of spare parts. I find it a great boat to race on, and don't expect anything more than everyone's best efforts. As Skipper: I usually fill in the blanks on bringing beer and/or Rhum depending on ships stores. I don't think I've ever brought snacks, but I have brought a BBQ once for after race raft up. Crew usually brings beer/rhum and ice and other necessities of life. I haven't heard any complaints and the core team has been together since I've moved to Nova Scotia two years ago. Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 On 07/24/12, Oban Lambie <oban.lam...@gmail.com<mailto:oban.lam...@gmail.com>> wrote: I've always provided snacks, water, sandwiches and beer for my Tuesday nite racing crew. My wife just realized this and says I'm too generous - implying that the crew should bring their own. Sounds cheap and wrong to me as I'm grateful that the crew comes along but wanted to know what you other racers do? 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