This is a perfect place for the "85% rule".  I used this rule in my 
professional career and use it a lot as a race skipper.  

Here's how it is:  "If it's 85% of the way I would have done it, it's OK".  
Like Martin (and many others), I let the crew do a lot of putting the boat 
away.  More often than not, they get within that 85% window.  After they leave, 
I may redo some of it that fell outside the window.  


Case in point.  Last week, the Admiral's grandson "helped" me repair some 
sheetrock in a closet in the house.  I had to loosen the rule a bit, more like 
a 60% rule.  Heck, it's sheetrock REPAIR.  Gotta slop the mud on anyway.  
Specifically, he bent a lot of nails and made a few new holes and dings in the 
walls.  After he left, I repaired his "repairs".  He felt good about helping 
and stayed out of trouble.  The extra work for me was better than dealing with 
a sullen kid.


Bottom line, keep the crew happy, tell them they did a good job then redo 
things after they leave.  

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




>________________________________
> From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:53 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer? + boat cleaning
> 
>
> 
>Chuck,
> 
>Based on the evidence:
>>After a race, I like to put the boat away alone, so I know where everything 
>>is.
>>I want my boat how I want it, ….
> 
>You are a text book case of ARSS. (Anally-retentive sailor’s syndrome)  As a 
>charter member of the ARSS support group’s PNW chapter I can recognize the 
>symptoms from a great distance.
> 
>Sadly there is no “purple pill” to cure ARSS.  Your crew’s tolerance and early 
>exit post race are the only know treatments.
> 
>Calypso’s crew quickly learns that once the big stuff is done I prefer to 
>finish putting the boat away by myself.  When a greenhorn asks how/where to 
>tie on a fender the more experienced crew tell them the general location with 
>a follow up of “don’t worry, Martin will redo it after you leave”.
> 
>Martin
>Calypso
>1971 C&C 43
>Seattle
>
>________________________________
> 
>From:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
>Behalf Of Chuck S
>Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:36 PM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer?
> 
>Good topic:  Who pays for food and beer?
>I started racing two years ago so I'm new to racing and the customary rituals 
>necessary to help the crew bond and keep returning.  I see I have been wrong, 
>releasing them to drive home as soon as we touch the dock.  After a race, I 
>like to put the boat away alone, so I know where everything is.   I also feel 
>I need some quiet time after racing, so I try to get them to party on the two 
>hour run to the dock.  My dock is behind a private residence with no room to 
>party, so I might have to find a watering hole where we can share a drink 
>before everybody drives home.  Some of my guys drive over an hour, so not sure 
>how that will fly?  Otherwise I keep plenty of water bottles in the ice box 
>along with ginger ale, coke, pepsi, sprite or fresca, iced tea, and plenty of 
>a light beer.  Some guys add their favorite beer to the ice.  
> 
>I do all the boat prep and carry all expenses, entry fees repair costs etc.  I 
>want my boat how I want it, the crew to enjoy the race, work hard at winning, 
>but have fun, and come back.  We don't have alcohol during the racing, but 
>maybe one after the last race, (it's a two hour sail or motor from the racing 
>venue to our dock) and definitely offer drinks at the dock.   I tell them to 
>take some drinks (soda or water) with them for the drive home.
> 
>We just completed the Atlantic City Race Week Regatta.  We had a crew of 5 on 
>Friday and I provided doughnuts for the morning, and Italian hoagies for 
>lunch.  Some of the crew brought their own lunch, but the hoagie was devoured. 
> They liked that.
> 
>Saturday, crew of 7, we waited on the docks all day but the races were 
>eventually cancelled.  I had doughnuts and turkey and chicken wraps for the 
>crew, but 4 crew went sightseeing at Revel's new casino during the wait, and 
>had lunch watching the ocean from the casino.
> 
>Sunday, I had a crew of 6.  I bought a 2 ft hoagie cut into 6 pieces.  Plus I 
>had 4 wraps left over from the day before.  Some crew brought their own 
>sandwiches and the hoagie was devoured.  The wraps were left behind.  (note to 
>self: the guys don't like wraps)
> 
>I've brought lots of snacks, and other drinks like Gatorade, but they don't 
>get touched, so I pared it down.
> 
> 
>Chuck
>Resolute
>1990 C&C 34R
>Atlantic City , 
NJ
>
>________________________________
> 
>From: "Rich Knowles" <r...@sailpower.ca>
>To:  cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:19:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer?
>
>I'm a cheap sod. I supply the hydrocarbons, they supply the carbohydrates.
>But not all the time....
>
>Rich Knowles
>Indigo LF38
>Halifax , 
Nova Scotia
>
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