Pardon me for asking, but why the need to upgrade your kernel?

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:35 AM, <clug-talk-requ...@clug.ca> wrote:

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> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 21:36:38 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Greg King <wgk...@shaw.ca>
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> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] June Meeting
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> Same situation for me - weekly Wednesday evening commitment unless it
> rains.
>
>
> Greg
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> From: "Ralph Boland" <rpbol...@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June, 2013 10:46:36 AM
> Subject: [clug-talk] June Meeting
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> I have softball games to umpire for both Wednesdays and probably for most
> of the rest of the
> summer.
>
> Unless my games get rained out, see you in the fall.
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> Ralph Boland
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> From: Shawn <sgro...@open2space.com>
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> Subject: [clug-talk] Upgrade problem
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> Trying to update my server system (Ubuntu 12.04-LTS) to hopefully
> address the latest security issues making the rounds.  But I keep
> getting a failed dependency:
>
> root@terra:/home/sgrover# apt-get install -f
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Correcting dependencies... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>    linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>    linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded.
> 2 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0 B/4,204 B of archives.
> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-generic-pae:
>   linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae;
> however:
>    Package linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae is not installed.
> dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic-pae (--configure):
>   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic-pae:
>   linux-generic-pae depends on linux-image-generic-pae (= 3.2.0.41.49);
> however:
>    Package linux-image-generic-pae is not configured yet.
>   linux-generic-pae depends on linux-headers-generic-pae (=
> 3.2.0.41.49); however:
>    Version of linux-headers-generic-pae on system is 3.2.0.45.54.
> dpkg: error processing linux-generic-pae (--configure):
>   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a
> followup error from a previous failure.
>
>                                     No apport report written because the
> error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.
>
>
>
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>   linux-image-generic-pae
>   linux-generic-pae
>
>
> This problem originally started when my /boot partition filled up.  I
> manually deleted some files, and then ran the command(s)
>
> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40}-generic-pae
> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40}
>
> This should have purged any old kernels.
>
> If I list the kernels with "dpkg -l | grep generic-pae" I see the
> following:
> root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
> ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45               3.2.0-45.70
> Header files related to Linux kernel version 3.2.0
> ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45-generic-pae   3.2.0-45.70
> Linux kernel headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> ii  linux-headers-generic-pae            3.2.0.45.54
> Generic Linux kernel headers
> root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep generic-pae
> iU  linux-generic-pae                    3.2.0.41.49
> Complete Generic Linux kernel
> ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45-generic-pae   3.2.0-45.70
> Linux kernel headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> ii  linux-headers-generic-pae            3.2.0.45.54
> Generic Linux kernel headers
> rc  linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic-pae    2.6.35-22.35
> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86
> ii  linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic-pae    2.6.35-28.50
> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86
> rc  linux-image-2.6.35-30-generic-pae    2.6.35-30.61
> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86
> rc  linux-image-2.6.35-31-generic-pae    2.6.35-31.63
> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86
> rc  linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic-pae    2.6.35-32.65
> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86
> ii  linux-image-2.6.38-13-generic-pae    2.6.38-13.55
> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86
> rc  linux-image-3.0.0-19-generic-pae     3.0.0-19.33
> Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86
> ii  linux-image-3.0.0-20-generic-pae     3.0.0-20.34
> Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86
> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic-pae     3.2.0-32.51
> Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic-pae     3.2.0-33.52
> Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic-pae     3.2.0-34.53
> Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae     3.2.0-45.70
> Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> iU  linux-image-generic-pae              3.2.0.41.49
> Generic Linux kernel image
>
>
> At this point, I *think* I should only have
> linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae installed, so I'm not sure how to
> resolve this issue.
>
> Any tips?  The online stuff says the apt-get -f install should "just
> work" now...  I think it's wrong. :)
>
> Shawn
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 01:09:16 -0600
> From: Shawn <sgro...@open2space.com>
> To: CLUG General <clug-talk@clug.ca>
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Upgrade problem
> Message-ID: <51b0359c.2040...@open2space.com>
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> I think I resolved this.
>
> If you look at the output of my "dpkg -l" command, you'll see
>
> iU  linux-generic-pae                    3.2.0.41.49 Complete Generic
> Linux kernel
>
> and
>
> iU  linux-image-generic-pae              3.2.0.41.49 Generic Linux
> kernel image
>
> It says right there that these two packages are depending on
> 3.2.0.41.49, but everything else is depending on a 3.2.0.45.x version.
> So, I purged those two items via
>
> dpkg --purge linux-generic-pae
> dpkg --purge linux-image-generic-pae
>
> And then ran the apt-get -f install command to fix any broken installs.
>   It didn't report errors this time.  apt-get upgrade is now running.
> And if I do a listing again these packages are now reporting
> dependencies on the .45.x version of the kernel.
>
> Crisis averted.  Now the real test will be to reboot the server and see
> if I broke anything.  I mean I did purge EVERY kernel except the latest...
>
> Shawn
>
> On 13-06-05 10:28 PM, Shawn wrote:
> > Trying to update my server system (Ubuntu 12.04-LTS) to hopefully
> > address the latest security issues making the rounds.  But I keep
> > getting a failed dependency:
> >
> > root@terra:/home/sgrover# apt-get install -f
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > Correcting dependencies... Done
> > The following extra packages will be installed:
> >    linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
> > The following packages will be upgraded:
> >    linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
> > 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded.
> > 2 not fully installed or removed.
> > Need to get 0 B/4,204 B of archives.
> > After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
> > Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
> > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
> linux-image-generic-pae:
> >   linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae;
> > however:
> >    Package linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae is not installed.
> > dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic-pae (--configure):
> >   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic-pae:
> >   linux-generic-pae depends on linux-image-generic-pae (= 3.2.0.41.49);
> > however:
> >    Package linux-image-generic-pae is not configured yet.
> >   linux-generic-pae depends on linux-headers-generic-pae (=
> > 3.2.0.41.49); however:
> >    Version of linux-headers-generic-pae on system is 3.2.0.45.54.
> > dpkg: error processing linux-generic-pae (--configure):
> >   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> > No apport report written because the error message indicates its a
> > followup error from a previous failure.
> >
> >                                     No apport report written because the
> > error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.
> >
> >
> >
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> >   linux-image-generic-pae
> >   linux-generic-pae
> >
> >
> > This problem originally started when my /boot partition filled up.  I
> > manually deleted some files, and then ran the command(s)
> >
> > dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40}-generic-pae
> > dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40}
> >
> > This should have purged any old kernels.
> >
> > If I list the kernels with "dpkg -l | grep generic-pae" I see the
> > following:
> > root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
> > ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45               3.2.0-45.70 Header files
> > related to Linux kernel version 3.2.0
> > ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45-generic-pae   3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel
> > headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> > ii  linux-headers-generic-pae            3.2.0.45.54 Generic Linux
> > kernel headers
> > root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep generic-pae
> > iU  linux-generic-pae                    3.2.0.41.49 Complete Generic
> > Linux kernel
> > ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45-generic-pae   3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel
> > headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> > ii  linux-headers-generic-pae            3.2.0.45.54 Generic Linux
> > kernel headers
> > rc  linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic-pae    2.6.35-22.35 Linux kernel image
> > for version 2.6.35 on x86
> > ii  linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic-pae    2.6.35-28.50 Linux kernel image
> > for version 2.6.35 on x86
> > rc  linux-image-2.6.35-30-generic-pae    2.6.35-30.61 Linux kernel image
> > for version 2.6.35 on x86
> > rc  linux-image-2.6.35-31-generic-pae    2.6.35-31.63 Linux kernel image
> > for version 2.6.35 on x86
> > rc  linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic-pae    2.6.35-32.65 Linux kernel image
> > for version 2.6.35 on x86
> > ii  linux-image-2.6.38-13-generic-pae    2.6.38-13.55 Linux kernel image
> > for version 2.6.38 on x86
> > rc  linux-image-3.0.0-19-generic-pae     3.0.0-19.33 Linux kernel image
> > for version 3.0.0 on x86
> > ii  linux-image-3.0.0-20-generic-pae     3.0.0-20.34 Linux kernel image
> > for version 3.0.0 on x86
> > ii  linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic-pae     3.2.0-32.51 Linux kernel image
> > for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> > ii  linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic-pae     3.2.0-33.52 Linux kernel image
> > for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> > ii  linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic-pae     3.2.0-34.53 Linux kernel image
> > for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> > ii  linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae     3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel image
> > for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> > iU  linux-image-generic-pae              3.2.0.41.49 Generic Linux
> > kernel image
> >
> >
> > At this point, I *think* I should only have
> > linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae installed, so I'm not sure how to
> > resolve this issue.
> >
> > Any tips?  The online stuff says the apt-get -f install should "just
> > work" now...  I think it's wrong. :)
> >
> > Shawn
> >
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> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:34:33 -0600
> From: Gustin Johnson <gus...@meganerd.ca>
> To: CLUG General <clug-talk@clug.ca>
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Upgrade problem
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> With Ubuntu 12.04, you might want to consider going with the 3.5 kernel
> (the current default of new 12.04.x installs).
>
> Also, I assume that this is a 32 bit install on a machine with more than 4
> GiB of memory?  If not you probably do not need the PAE kernel (just the
> generic should suffice).
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Shawn <sgro...@open2space.com> wrote:
>
> > I think I resolved this.
> >
> > If you look at the output of my "dpkg -l" command, you'll see
> >
> >
> > iU  linux-generic-pae                    3.2.0.41.49 Complete Generic
> > Linux kernel
> >
> > and
> >
> >
> > iU  linux-image-generic-pae              3.2.0.41.49 Generic Linux kernel
> > image
> >
> > It says right there that these two packages are depending on 3.2.0.41.49,
> > but everything else is depending on a 3.2.0.45.x version. So, I purged
> > those two items via
> >
> > dpkg --purge linux-generic-pae
> > dpkg --purge linux-image-generic-pae
> >
> > And then ran the apt-get -f install command to fix any broken installs.
> >  It didn't report errors this time.  apt-get upgrade is now running. And
> if
> > I do a listing again these packages are now reporting dependencies on the
> > .45.x version of the kernel.
> >
> > Crisis averted.  Now the real test will be to reboot the server and see
> if
> > I broke anything.  I mean I did purge EVERY kernel except the latest...
> >
> > Shawn
> >
> >
> > On 13-06-05 10:28 PM, Shawn wrote:
> >
> >> Trying to update my server system (Ubuntu 12.04-LTS) to hopefully
> >> address the latest security issues making the rounds.  But I keep
> >> getting a failed dependency:
> >>
> >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# apt-get install -f
> >> Reading package lists... Done
> >> Building dependency tree
> >> Reading state information... Done
> >> Correcting dependencies... Done
> >> The following extra packages will be installed:
> >>    linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
> >> The following packages will be upgraded:
> >>    linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
> >> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded.
> >> 2 not fully installed or removed.
> >> Need to get 0 B/4,204 B of archives.
> >> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
> >> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
> >> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
> >> linux-image-generic-pae:
> >>   linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-**pae;
> >> however:
> >>    Package linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-**pae is not installed.
> >> dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic-pae (--configure):
> >>   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> >> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic-pae:
> >>   linux-generic-pae depends on linux-image-generic-pae (= 3.2.0.41.49);
> >> however:
> >>    Package linux-image-generic-pae is not configured yet.
> >>   linux-generic-pae depends on linux-headers-generic-pae (=
> >> 3.2.0.41.49); however:
> >>    Version of linux-headers-generic-pae on system is 3.2.0.45.54.
> >> dpkg: error processing linux-generic-pae (--configure):
> >>   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> >> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a
> >> followup error from a previous failure.
> >>
> >>                                     No apport report written because the
> >> error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Errors were encountered while processing:
> >>   linux-image-generic-pae
> >>   linux-generic-pae
> >>
> >>
> >> This problem originally started when my /boot partition filled up.  I
> >> manually deleted some files, and then ran the command(s)
> >>
> >> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,**32,33,34,35,37,40}-generic-pae
> >> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,**32,33,34,35,37,40}
> >>
> >> This should have purged any old kernels.
> >>
> >> If I list the kernels with "dpkg -l | grep generic-pae" I see the
> >> following:
> >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
> >> ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45               3.2.0-45.70 Header files
> >> related to Linux kernel version 3.2.0
> >> ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45-**generic-pae   3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel
> >> headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> >> ii  linux-headers-generic-pae            3.2.0.45.54 Generic Linux
> >> kernel headers
> >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep generic-pae
> >> iU  linux-generic-pae                    3.2.0.41.49 Complete Generic
> >> Linux kernel
> >> ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-45-**generic-pae   3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel
> >> headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> >> ii  linux-headers-generic-pae            3.2.0.45.54 Generic Linux
> >> kernel headers
> >> rc  linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic-**pae    2.6.35-22.35 Linux kernel
> >> image
> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86
> >> ii  linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic-**pae    2.6.35-28.50 Linux kernel
> >> image
> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86
> >> rc  linux-image-2.6.35-30-generic-**pae    2.6.35-30.61 Linux kernel
> >> image
> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86
> >> rc  linux-image-2.6.35-31-generic-**pae    2.6.35-31.63 Linux kernel
> >> image
> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86
> >> rc  linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic-**pae    2.6.35-32.65 Linux kernel
> >> image
> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86
> >> ii  linux-image-2.6.38-13-generic-**pae    2.6.38-13.55 Linux kernel
> >> image
> >> for version 2.6.38 on x86
> >> rc  linux-image-3.0.0-19-generic-**pae     3.0.0-19.33 Linux kernel
> image
> >> for version 3.0.0 on x86
> >> ii  linux-image-3.0.0-20-generic-**pae     3.0.0-20.34 Linux kernel
> image
> >> for version 3.0.0 on x86
> >> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic-**pae     3.2.0-32.51 Linux kernel
> image
> >> for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> >> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic-**pae     3.2.0-33.52 Linux kernel
> image
> >> for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> >> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic-**pae     3.2.0-34.53 Linux kernel
> image
> >> for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> >> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-**pae     3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel
> image
> >> for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
> >> iU  linux-image-generic-pae              3.2.0.41.49 Generic Linux
> >> kernel image
> >>
> >>
> >> At this point, I *think* I should only have
> >> linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-**pae installed, so I'm not sure how to
> >> resolve this issue.
> >>
> >> Any tips?  The online stuff says the apt-get -f install should "just
> >> work" now...  I think it's wrong. :)
> >>
> >> Shawn
> >>
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