On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 14:16 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote:
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> Robert Lewko wrote:
> > If you actually look at resource usage vim uses within 10% of the
> > resources that emacs does!� In terms of flexibility of what you get out
> 
> vi != vim
> 
> > of an editor you can't compare what vim will give you compared with how
> > configurable emacs is.� I use vi/vim-tiny where I want to change one
> 
> It should be noted that I am not particularly invested in this topic.
> For what I need, vim suits my needs perfectly and emacs is just not
> worth the time given how little time I spend coding.
> 
> > line in a configuration file, mostly because it is done in the same
> > window as the terminal.� However, when I want to have a real editor
> > which is comfortable for extended coding sessions, has no "modes" and�
> 
> Perhaps I am not a real coder.  If I need to spend more than 2 hours
> writing something, it means this task is meant for someone else.
> 
> > which helps me with formatting the code the way I want, I rely on a real
> > editor.� Hey, if its good enough for Richard Stallman its good enough
> > for me!
> 
> For learning C I use Kdevelop or Eclipse, and sometimes I will use vim
> (I actually like using vim).  I don't really care since I just need to
> get the job done.  Most my time is spent in Powershell these days, so
> this topic is moot.
> 
> These days I see the arguments as a historical footnote.  I don't
> actually know any programmers who use emacs these days, and only a
> handful who use vim.  There are too many IDEs and everyone has their
> favourite.
> 
> Also, I am not about to
??? Suffering from premature, erm, interjection?

> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > 
> > Robert Lewko wrote:
> >> see below...
> > 
> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Gustin Johnson
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> > 
> >> John Jardine wrote:
> >>> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
> >>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
> > 
> >> This will install gcc/g++ etc. ýEverything you need to compile. ýThis
> >> does not install an IDE, but then you have a few to choose from.
> > 
> >>> After that I'd D/L Eclipse, but substitute your preferred
> > environment.
> > 
> >> I would use the version of Eclipse from the Eclipse web site
> > instead of
> >> the one packaged in Ubuntu. ýOf course I probably just KDevelop or
> > more
> >> likely vim.
> > 
> >>> Vim is for people too inept to learn emacs ;)
> > 
> > Emacs... because Microsoft just wasn't good enough at bloating
> > software :)
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