There are some expenses with a casino, but not quite as big as providing the 
float for the casino.  The Big4 casino has a float of half a million last I 
heard... :)  The expenses include the costs for 2 advisors, food for the 
volunteers, and some other minor expenses.  I understand that if we were to 
plan for $3000, we would be fine, and we would recoup this money with the 
payout - approx $30K or more.

I understand Michael's concerns regarding the use of gambling money, but this 
would be a choice put to the members if we proceed with this.  That said, the 
AGLC does advocate social responsibility and regular casino staff undergo 
training to watch for people with suspected gambling problems.

If anyone is interested most of the information I have gleaned over the past 
two days is contained in a manual available online: 
http://www.aglc.gov.ab.ca/pdf/charitable_gaming/gain_manual_final.pdf
(It's about a 5MB download).

Next, a Casino is but one of 4 methods we *may* have access to.  There are 
also Bingos, raffles, and Nevada/pull tickets.  Of these, I think the raffles 
are likely the next most appropriate.

Good ideas so far!  One area that may be troublesome is a donation to an 
organization outside of Alberta (like the Apache organization for example).  
But, let's not worry about that for now.  Let's just continue to speculate 
what we might want to use the money for.  If things work out, then we'll get 
more formal and take a vote if needed.  Right now, there is substantial grey 
area about how CLUG qualifies for this program.  I have a phone call into the 
appropriate people to help clear up this grey area.  I'll let everyone know 
when I know more.

Shawn

On Thursday 21 July 2005 22:22, Darcy Brodie wrote:
> Hello
>     I belong to another Association that has looked into applying for a
> Casino fund raiser event.  What we found, was that, as the sponsoring
> "host" of the casino night there are a few rather large requirements.
> The sponsoring host must supply the float for the evening (I forget how
> much it was, but I could get the amount tomorrow night), and must
> provide the names of twice the number of volunteers to man the event
> (they all have to have security checks run, and the sponsoring host must
> have sufficient extra volunteers cleared to allow for volunteers who are
> unable to work their shifts) and none of the volunteers can be paid for
> their services.  From what I remember, the sponsoring host is assured of
> at least getting the amount of the float back as a minimum.  If CLUG
> applies, and is granted a Casino, a date and location will be
> specified.  however, that date could be up to 1 1/2 years from now
>
>     In regards to using proceeds to obtain our own facility, while the
> idea has merits, the Board and the membership must keep in mind the long
> term costs of such a facility (taxes, city licenses, utilities, etc).
>
>     For personal reasons, I agree to a point with Michael regarding the
> use of casino money. While I am glad to see it used in constructive
> methods to benefit society, the downfall to this is that money is
> probably taking food from someones table.  Personally, I do not believe
> that CLUG has a large enough volunteer base, or the capital required to
> sponsor a Casino (I am not, however, saying that we can't / shouldn't
> look into it as an option)
>
>
> With mixed options on Casino's
>
> Darcy

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