Sounds to me like your problems with Knoppix are directly related to trying to 
interoperate with Windows.  If I want to access or run Windows applications/files, 
then I run Windows.  If I want to attempt to recover a crashed drive or experiment 
with Linux, then I'll use Knoppix.  Normally when I'm using Knoppix, I don't even 
access my local drive.

In addition, it sounds like your hardware is a little flakey.  To say that Knoppix 
sucks because your computer refused to boot after using it, isn't a direct reflection 
on Knoppix, but more on either your hardware, or what you (or some other user) was 
doing when running Knoppix.  For instance, if I were to do an su in Knoppix, mount my 
local drive, then repartition it, would it be Knoppix's falut that my hardware wasn't 
behaving the way it was before using Knoppix?

I don't mean to be insulting here, and I hope I'm not.  But I think you might be a 
little quick to blame Knoppix for the behavior you are reporting.  At the very least I 
think more investigation needs to be done.

My thoughts....

Shawn

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Behalf Of Andrew Graupe
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:50 AM
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Subject: [clug-talk] Knoppix Crashed My Computer... well, almost


I recently downloaded and burned a copy of the lastest version of 
Knoppix (3.4).  I gave it a test run on my dual-boot WinXP/Fedora box 
(instead of my Gentoo box), just to see how it would work.  I 
particularly wanted to test the "safe" NTFS writing capabilities.  This 
version is very similar to the last one, except for the 2.6 kernel and 
the NTFS write support.

All was going well as I used the included OpenOffice Writer to type my 
essay.  I then ran the NTFS driver detection (to grab the MS drivers 
from my XP partition).  It concluded successfully, and I remounted the 
XP partition with captive-ntfs.  Now, to save my report...  I tried to 
save it in my School folder, but, alas, it gave me an error message; I 
then saved it to my home directory and copied it to the relevant 
folder.  No error messages.  I then tried to view it in Konqueror, and I 
got this message: "Directory does not appear to exist".  I then tried 
going to it again, but Konqueror showed that My Documents no longer 
existed!  I was now worried, so I saved the essay to a floppy and rebooted.

Message: "Boot failed."  I was worried, but it turned out that it was 
still set to force a CD boot, so that was easy to fix, even if it did 
spike my blood pressure for more than a second.  I booted back into 
WinXP, and the moment of truth came... My Documents was still there!  No 
harm was done, but I promise you its the last time I'll use Knoppix.

Some other Knoppix horror stories that have happened to me:

While using Knoppix 3.3 on my WinXP computer, it froze up.  Not worried, 
I quickly turned it off. (I was a relative noob at that point, so I 
might have been able to kill the Xserver and recover it).  Much to my 
horror, when I turned it back on, nothing happened.  Not even a boot 
failed message.  I could hear the machine running, but nothing was 
happening.  While slightly nervous, I unplugged and replugged it and it 
worked.

At my school (where the BIOS are no longer set to boot from CD, and 
password-protected), my friend (using knoppix 3.3) tried to use WINE to 
emulate the Command Prompt.  For whatever reason, this caused Windows 
2000 to not boot.  It would load, and then reboot for whatever reason.  
The machine in question had to be re-imaged, but the saving grace is 
that, months after, the machine still hasn't had the draconian security 
polices put back into effect.

The moral of my long message: Knoppix can be good, but, in my 
experience, it can also be a huge headache.  It's much easier to use 
Partition Magic to set aside a 5GB linux partition than everything I've 
gone through.  I no longer recommend Knoppix.


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