I've cced Chip in case he knows this was decided already.

To me reviewboard not being committed to 4.1 is a problem with the community 
following up on patches and not with the original submit of the patch.  The 
submitter obviously submitted the patch in time (some has been there for a long 
time) so should we make it an exception for review board submits that made it 
in time to make it into the release?  

If not, then next release we should set a deadline for review board patches 
earlier than feature freeze deadline. 

--Alex 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:11 PM
> To: Koushik Das; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
> 
> The feature that did not make it to master before 1/31 is now going to be
> part of 4.2.
> So move your feature ticket and related documents to 4.2.
> 
> -abhi
> 
> 
> On 06/02/13 10:56 AM, "Koushik Das" <koushik....@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> >The changes are in review board. I will wait for some more time and if
> >there is no feedback will rebase and merge to master/4.1.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Abhinandan Prateek
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:32 AM
> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Cc: Koushik Das
> >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
> >>
> >> Koushik,
> >>    If you have not yet updated the progress of this 4.1 feature in
> >>jira, please
> >> do.
> >>
> >> -abhi
> >>
> >> On 27/01/13 3:44 PM, "Koushik Das" <koushik....@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >See inline. Refer to the code changes @
> >> >https://reviews.apache.org/r/9041/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Prashant Kumar Mishra
> [mailto:prashantkumar.mis...@citrix.com]
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:56 PM
> >> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> I am planning to take the QA job for this feature. Have reviewed the
> >> >> functional spec(not much details are present), went through
> community
> >> >> discussion  and have the following questions.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1-Do we support mixed (heterogeneous) cluster for vmware in CS?
> >> >>         it seems VMWare support  mixed cluster, please correct me if
> >> >>I am wrong
> >> >>        a-"  http://communities.vmware.com/message/2008030";
> >> >>        b-"
> >> >>http://blogs.vmware.com/vsphere/2011/10/mixing-esxesxi-versions-
> >> >> in-an-hadrs-cluster.html"
> >> >
> >> >No
> >> >
> >> >> 2-Are We going to change Global config VMware cluster size limit  to
> >>16?
> >> >
> >> >This is removed
> >> >
> >> >> 3- Apart from configuration  and  hypervisor_capabilities  table are
> >> >>there any  other table going to be modified ?
> >> >
> >> >Only hypervisor_capabilities table is modified
> >> >
> >> >> 4-In hypervisor _capabilities table what is dummy value we are going
> >> >>to put  for other hypervisor type , is it  -1 ?
> >> >
> >> >Default is null
> >> >
> >> >> 5-Any API changes ?
> >> >
> >> >No
> >> >
> >> >> 6-Upgrade path ?
> >> >
> >> >Not affected
> >> >
> >> >> 7-option of adding host  through  backdoor(adding host separately to
> >> >>cluster,  even cluster size > 8 host)  is still available ?
> >> >
> >> >No. Looking at the code doesn't look like the backdoor was available
> >> >earlier as well.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> Prashant Kumar Mishra
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Koushik Das [mailto:koushik....@citrix.com]
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:56 PM
> >> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
> >> >>
> >> >> There can be multiple dimensions based on which the size can vary but
> >> >> it cannot go beyond the max. value (32).
> >> >>
> >> >> I am referring to the following docs:
> >> >> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere4/r40/vsp_40_config_max.pdf
> >> >> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere5/r50/vsphere-50-
> configuration-
> >> >> maximums.pdf
> >> >> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere5/r51/vsphere-51-
> configuration-
> >> >> maximums.pdf
> >> >>
> >> >> -Koushik
> >> >>
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: Hari Kannan [mailto:hari.kan...@citrix.com]
> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:43 PM
> >> >> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi Koushik,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have a question/concern -
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The "limitations" are multi-dimensional - for example, vSphere 5.0
> >> >> > clusters hosting linked clone pools are limited to 8 ESXi hosts
> >> >> > when using VMFS datastores and 32 ESXi hosts when using only NFS
> >> >> > datastores. In 5.1, they made both 32 hosts. I think 4.0 had a
> >> >>different set
> >> >> of values.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In other words, the host limits are hypervisor type, hypervisor
> >> >> > version, storage technology etc. i.e. we cant set the hard limit as
> >> >> > 32 as 5.0 did not support it for VMFS..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hari
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: Koushik Das [mailto:koushik....@citrix.com]
> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:30 PM
> >> >> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
> >> >> >
> >> >> > To clarify some more.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I have suggested is to have a max. hosts per cluster limit
> >> >> > based on specific HV version. For e.g. for Vmware
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Version 4.0 will have a max. limit of X (i.e. in any CS Vmware 4.0
> >> >> > cluster, the max. number of hosts that can be added is X) Version
> >> >> > 4.1
> >> >>will
> >> >> have a max.
> >> >> > limit of Y Version 5.0 will have a max. limit of Z
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Based on the vmware specification X, Y, Z are all 32. As part of
> >> >> > best practices (in documentation) all the limitations discussed as
> >> >> > to why the limit was set to
> >> >> > 8 earlier can be mentioned. The idea is that CS shouldn't impose
> >> >> > any artificial restrictions and rely only on HV specifications to
> >> >> > the
> >> >>extent
> >> >> possible.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For any new supported version another entry can be added to the
> >> >> > hypervisor_capabilities table.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As Alex mentioned, the admin is free to decide on the number of
> >> >> > hosts that needs to be added in a cluster as long as the hard max.
> >> >> > limits are not exceeded.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Koushik
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > From: Koushik Das [mailto:koushik....@citrix.com]
> >> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 11:45 PM
> >> >> > > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > See inline
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > -Koushik
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > From: Alex Huang [mailto:alex.hu...@citrix.com]
> >> >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 11:24 PM
> >> >> > > > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on
> >> >> > > > VMware
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Koushik,
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > I believe what you pointed out there is the maximum limit for
> >> >> > > > the
> >> >> > > hypervisor.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Yes. Maximum based on the HV version.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Hari,
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > What's the point of the admin setting these values?  Afterall,
> >> >> > > > he's the one who's adding hosts himself?  If he wants more, why
> >> >> > > > should cs stop
> >> >> > > him?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > --Alex
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > > From: Hari Kannan [mailto:hari.kan...@citrix.com]
> >> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:44 AM
> >> >> > > > > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > > > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on
> >> >> > > > > VMware
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Hi Koushik,
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Can you please elaborate
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > a) how the admin gets to set this value?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Why should the admin be allowed to change these values? These
> are
> >> >> > > the max. limit supported by the specific HV based on the version.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > > b) is this value set on a per cluster basis? If so, what is
> >> >> > > > > the default
> >> >> > value?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > It's not per cluster.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Hari
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > > From: Koushik Das [mailto:koushik....@citrix.com]
> >> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 4:57 AM
> >> >> > > > > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > > > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on
> >> >> > > > > VMware
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Didn't see any feedback, so am assuming that the approach
> >> >> > > > > seems reasonable. I will go ahead and start with the
> >> implementation.
> >> >> > > > > Not planning to write a FS as this is a small feature and the
> >> >> > > > > below mail
> >> >> > > > summarizes it.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > -Koushik
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > > > From: Koushik Das [mailto:koushik....@citrix.com]
> >> >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:26 PM
> >> >> > > > > > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on
> >> >> > > > > > VMware
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > So based on the discussions would it be fair to conclude
> >> >> > > > > > that this should be handled by adding some column like
> >> >> > 'max_host_per_cluster'
> >> >> > > > > > in hypervisor_capabilities table. Currently the following
> >> >> > > > > > version entries are present for Vmware. For each version an
> >> >> > > > > > appropriate value can be associated based on the
> >> >> > > > > > limitations/actual
> >> >> > supported.
> >> >> > > > > > For other HVs where this setting is not applicable some
> >> >> > > > > > dummy value, say (-1) can be
> >> >> > > > > entered.
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > hv_type       hv_version
> >> >> > > > > > VMware        default
> >> >> > > > > > VMware        4.0
> >> >> > > > > > VMware        4.1
> >> >> > > > > > VMware        5.0
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > Let me know if there is a consensus on this.
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> >> > > > > > Koushik
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > > > > From: Alex Huang [mailto:alex.hu...@citrix.com]
> >> >> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:08 PM
> >> >> > > > > > > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on
> >> >> > > > > > > VMware
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > +1
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > The more we move these types of things out of
> >> >> > > > > > > configuration and into component specific references the
> >> better.
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > --Alex
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > > > > > From: Tamas Monos [mailto:tam...@veber.co.uk]
> >> >> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:10 AM
> >> >> > > > > > > > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16
> >> >> > > > > > > > on VMware
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > Hi,
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > I'd recommend removing any hard limits from CS and
> >> >> > > > > > > > introduce a variable like "max.guest.limit" on the
> >> >> > > > > > > > Hypervisor Capabilities
> >> >> > page.
> >> >> > > > > > > > This value could default to 8, but should the admin
> >> >> > > > > > > > decide otherwise could be set to anything.
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > Regards
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > Tamas Monos
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> >> >> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > > > > > From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us]
> >> >> > > > > > > > Sent: 20 December 2012 15:25
> >> >> > > > > > > > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16
> >> >> > > > > > > > on VMware
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Koushik Das
> >> >> > > > > > > > <koushik....@citrix.com>
> >> >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > > > > > > This
> >> >> > > > > > > > > http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere5/r51/vsphere-
> 51-
> >> >> > > > > > > > configuration-maximums.pdf mentions that the max. can
> >> >> > > > > > > > be
> >> >> > > > > > > > 32 for ESX
> >> >> > > > > > 5.1.
> >> >> > > > > > > > Any specific reason to make it 16? Also it needs to be
> >> >> > > > > > > > seen that this limit works across all supported ESX
> >> >>versions.
> >> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > > -Koushik
> >> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > Yes - the different versions having different limits
> >> >> > > > > > > > complicates things a
> >> >> > > > > > bit.
> >> >> > > > > > > > 5.1 = 32, 5.0 = 16 4.x = 8?
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > --David
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> >

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