On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:11 PM, <kdam...@apache.org> wrote: > Can we get a firm answer if we are go for abusing the reply-all button now?
+1 on abusing reply-all button. --Sheng > > Thanks. > > -kd > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Sheng Yang [mailto:sh...@yasker.org] >>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:44 PM >>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >>Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Email etiquette CC or not CC >> >>On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> Even if we adopt ccing, it is a convention to get a more efficient > traffic >>flow. It is not a must. It is your responsibility to adopt the > conventions that >>have evolved on the list to make the list more efficient such as tagged > topics >>and ccing. >>>>> >>>>> What's the follow up? >>>>> >>>>> I think we agree to try adapt CC style? >>> >>> I think so, I see few emails with CCs in them. Send emails with CC to >>> respective person boldly, and let them configure their email client so >>> the email does not show up as two emails in their inbox. >> >>One thing need to be done from manager of the mailing list. Currently the >>mailing list automatically remove all the CC/TO except mailing list address > itself >>when sending out the mails, and no way to get people CCed automatically >>after that. >> >>And with CC, the most important thing to remember is: Reply All. It would > be a >>common mistakes when we start trying it, but I am sure we would be used to >>it soon. >> >>--Sheng >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>>> >>>> Sorry, I meant try to adopt CC style. >>>> >>>> --Sheng >>>>> >>>>> --Sheng >>>>>> >>>>>> --Alex >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Sheng Yang [mailto:sh...@yasker.org] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:01 PM >>>>>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Email etiquette CC or not CC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Chip Childers >>>>>>> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >>>>>>> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Edison Su <edison...@citrix.com> >>wrote: >>>>>>> >> Hi all, >>>>>>> >> I am struggling to read all the emails on dev list >>>>>>> >> everyday, it's just so >>>>>>> many emails. Is it possible, that enable/allow/encourage us CC to >>>>>>> somebody if you think the topic he/she should take a look at? I >>>>>>> think it will save both of us a lot of time. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Edison, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I'm fine with CC'ing someone specific when I know that I need >>>>>>> > their attention, but two caveats that I'm worried about are: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > 1 - I find myself often needing the whole community's attention, >>>>>>> > for VOTE threads or release planning updates, etc... I struggle >>>>>>> > to understand how folks want to see this. I thought that VOTE >>>>>>> > and ACS41 would be sufficient headers for people to actually pay >>>>>>> > attention to, but it appears to not be working. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe the header should be sufficient in the most case, and >>>>>>> that's exactly what's mostly other community did. But as you feel >>>>>>> that it's not working well, that's probably means, people are >>>>>>> lazy, in nature(though I think it's may be improved with CC'ing >>>>>>> someone directly, but this should not be an issue even with our >>>>>>> current mailing list policy). >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > 2 - If someone starts a thread, I would expect that they would >>>>>>> > actually pay attention to that thread! I've seen times when >>>>>>> > people start a thread, but don't respond to queries from others >>>>>>> > in the community. This is especially vexing when the thread is >>>>>>> > about a work that's in progress. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's exactly what we want to address. People are not intently >>>>>>> drop the thread, most of time, they just forgot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you start e.g. 5 threads in a day, you maybe miss one or two of >>>>>>> them in the next day. Or you start a thread one week ago but only >>>>>>> got response 1 week later, you also may be miss it completely. And >>>>>>> I personally feel even I am intently to find back my thread, it >>>>>>> would take 10s even 30s to find my thread - it's very possible I >>>>>>> missed it when skim for the first time, then realize where is that >>>>>>> thread? Then check back again(that's what's happened to me this >>>>>>> morning). That's very annoying. I suppose we would deal with the >>>>>>> mailing list based on a priority, even we would skim them all. Of >>>>>>> course on the top of priority list is the threads I involved. But >>>>>>> I cannot tell which one it is with a glimpse in tens even hundreds >>>>>>> of mails. What's we want, is we can pay attention to our threads > easily. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LKML received hundreds of mail every day, I cannot image how can >>>>>>> Linus Torvalds or Andrew Morton survive if the mail is only sent >>>>>>> to mailing list, and they have to go through all the mails to find >>>>>>> out which one got their attention yesterday(though I also believe >>>>>>> they got tons of CC or TO mails as well). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --Sheng >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Thoughts? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -chip >
