Agreed, this sounds like a good direction to go, and would also fill the role 
of 'guest agents(VMware tools, etc) as this would handle the standard use cases.

+1

I hope more people get in on this discussion.

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On Dec 15, 2012, at 12:55 PM, John Kinsella <j...@stratosec.co> wrote:

> Good point, there…maybe what we need here is to beef up the password server 
> idea to provide a standardized conduit to get info down to a VM. Similar to 
> EC2's user-data. 
> 
> Data I could see this framework providing:
> * System passwords
> * Additional IPs (so need to be able to return data sets, JSON-style maybe?)
> * Encryption keys
> * Metadata about the VM ("webserver," "database," "high-availability," 
> "master")
> * What else?
> 
> One very important piece that's missing is a timeout - need to be able to 
> have the object server provide the object(s) when a VM boots, but should be 
> able to specify for some objects that after X seconds that data should be 
> thrown away. Hugely important for encryption keys (I want to provide key to 
> decryption system at boot, but don't want malicious user to be able to login 
> a week later and easily get that key).
> 
> So I'd suggest maybe have one spec to update/expand the password server to be 
> an object server, and then Jayapal's multiple-IP spec would integrate with 
> that.
> 
> Super awesome bonus points: support for fetching/storing said objects in HSM. 
> I've got one vendor in mind who has a sw solution we're looking at, but 
> following a PKCS#11 format would probably be best.
> 
> John
> 
> On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:52 AM, "Kelceydamage@bbits" <kel...@bbits.ca>
> wrote:
> 
>> This is a prime example where guest scripts make sense for automating the 
>> interface alias creation. I still think I'm missing something however, does 
>> this include a new fetch IP API?
>> 
>> Also the 30 IP limit seems out of place, when I can go in right now and give 
>> any guest VM 256+ interface aliases without restriction. The default 
>> isolated network behind any VR is also a /24. Maybe adjust the limit to 256. 
>> That way it's more of a logical boundary.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 8:38 AM, John Kinsella <j...@stratosec.co> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd remove the limitation of having 30 IPs per interface. Modern OSes can 
>>> support way more.
>>> 
>>> Why no support for basic networking? I can see a small hosting provider 
>>> with a basic setup wanting to manage web servers...
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Jayapal Reddy Uradi 
>>> <jayapalreddy.ur...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Current guest VM by default having one NIC and one IP address assigned.
>>>> If your wants extra IP for the guest VM, there no provision from  the CS.
>>>> 
>>>> Using multiple IP address per NIC feature CS can associate IP address for 
>>>> the NIC,  user can take that IP and assign it to the VM.
>>>> 
>>>> Please find the FS for  the more details.
>>>> 
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Multiple+IP+address+per+NIC
>>>> 
>>>> Please provide your comments on the FS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> jayapal
>>> 
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