On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > Hmm, "cloudstack-extras" seems to me like something that the Apache > CloudStack project is providing. I was hoping for Shane's input on this, > which is why I didn't say anything after looping him in.
This sat for over a week with nary a comment. I don't mean to vent my frustration, but if you thought there was a problem why not say something or at least say don't move forward - instead you cced trademarks@, who have also been silent, and didn't voice any dissent yourself. How long should I have waited? I could have left this as github.com/cloudstack and not spent the time and energy to make the move, blog about it, notify the many people who this move affects etc. While I seek to make sure we do what is best for the project, it's exhausting to try and comply with the demands, only to propose things, get zero feedback, make the changes, publicize the changes, and then days later get feedback that it isn't acceptable. To that end, I've made you an admin on that github project - please take whatever action suits you. > > There are still several problems with this page: > > - The "cloudstack-extras" name seems confusing, as stated above. The > Apache extras is fine, because we are providing it. But Apache has no > oversight for this repository, so it should clearly indicate it's > provenance. (i.e. Citrix tools for CloudStack — which would, incidentally, > be a much better name. Perhaps change it to "Citrix"?) We toyed with the idea of Citrix - and I can probably jump through the hoops for that as well, but Citrix would also have issues with this, as virtually none of the software contained therein belongs to Citrix, nor do they really have control over it. This is largely code without a single unifying owner. The only commonality is that it is focused on CloudStack. Most of the items contained therein have been developed by people working on and around cloudstack. For instance, Edmunds.com, Opscode, and Enstratus employees wrote knife-cloudstack with no Citrix contributions whatsoever. > - The page uses the CloudStack logo/graphic, which may confuses users > who think this is run by the Apache CloudStack project. The logo/graphic > should be used responsibly. I would be more comfortable with a Citrix logo > there. (Presuming this is managed by Citrix.) > - The https://github.com/CloudStack-extras/CloudStack repository still > lists itself as "CloudStack OSS Cloud.com/community - IaaS (Infrastructure > as a Service)" which is confusing and makes it sound like this is the Git > repository for Apache CloudStack. > - The page now contains mixed messaging. If you read from the top left > down, you are told: > - "CloudStack / Open Source Cloud Computing" > - "former home of the CloudStack Project (Now Apache CloudStack > (incubating)" (missing paren) > - "CloudStack-extras" > - "CloudStack has moved to the ASF Incubator" > - "[Our mailing list is] cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" > - "[Our homepage is] http://incubator.apache.org/cloudstack"; > > > On 18 October 2012 14:40, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: > >> David, >> >> Belated +1 for the move. Thanks for doing it. >> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:22 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: >> > This has sat for almost a week with no additional comments - I'll >> > assume lazy consensus and make this change. >> > >> > --David >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org> >> wrote: >> >> David, I have looped in our VP of Brand Management to assist us here. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:21 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi folks, following up on an older thread: >> >>> >> >>> github.com/CloudStack needs to change its account name to something >> >>> that is less confusing. >> >>> >> >>> There are 18 repos in this account - about 1/2 of them still useful - >> >>> a few of the others need to stay around because of the provisions of >> >>> the GPL. >> >>> >> >>> Many of these repos are still useful to CloudStack - be it puppet >> >>> manifests or knife-cloudstack plugin, etc - so Joe pointed out apache >> >>> extras - (http://apache-extras.org) which seems analogous - so is >> >>> there any objection to this account being renamed to >> >>> cloudstack-extras? >> >>> >> >>> Happy to entertain other suggestions as well. >> >>> >> >>> --David >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> NS >> > >> > > > > -- > NS
