Do we have any idea how many CS users use OVM?

I suspect I know the answer to that…so, do we want to consider adding 
(optional) code in the future to phone home with some usage stats?

On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Will Chan <will.c...@citrix.com> wrote:

> It will take > week to get the existing OVM support to work again.  The 
> reason being CloudPlatform doesn't have this working in our recent releases 
> since Acton.  Adding support for the latest OVM will take even longer.
> 
> I would vote to have OVM be fixed in a later 4.0.x release.
> 
> Will
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:12 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Drop OVM in 4.0?
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net>
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:50:41PM -0700, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>>>> +1 on fixing in a 4.0.x.
>>>> We need to make some tough decisions if we want "time based
>> releases".
>>>> We already dropped AutoScale and Brocade even though they were
>>>> essentially code-complete for this reason.
>>>> This is an issue that is of uncertain size (weeks at least) to fix.
>>>> There is just too much uncertainty.
>>>> Also it seems that folks want the latest version of OVM anyway, which
>>>> would not be helped by fixing this in 4.0
>>> 
>>> We do need to make tough decisions for time-based releases, but we're
>>> not quite there yet.
>>> 
>>> IIRC one of the criteria for 4.0.0-incubating is that we'd support
>>> upgrades from prior releases of CloudStack[1] and AutoScale and
>>> Brocade were not in those releases - OVM was.
>> 
>> That certainly was the case, but we might need to rethink that assumption.
>> There are really 2 issues: supporting the latest version of OVM and / or
>> fixing the previous OVM support.
>> 
>> I understand the point about supporting the latest OVM version being "at
>> least > 1 week".  I haven't seen any answer to "fixing" the issues for the
>> previously supported OVM version.  Does anyone have a good handle on
>> that effort?  If it's equal or similar to making it work on the latest OVM,
>> then perhaps we are talking about the same thing...
>> If they are significantly different efforts, then we have to make a different
>> decision.
>> 
>>> It might be easier for folks to make a decision if we had a clear
>>> timeline for a 4.0.x release with OVM support and some idea who's
>>> going to be picking that up. (e.g., something like "Edison will be
>>> working on this feature and we're expecting it to be in master within
>>> two weeks of shipping 4.0.0-incubating).
>> 
>> Or at least a reasonable estimate for the different versions of "fixing" this
>> problem (per my question above).
>> 
>>> Holding the release up for an additional week (or longer) is not an
>>> attractive option, but neither is letting down a whole set of users
>>> who depend on OVM.
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>>> [1]CloudStack - not CloudPlatform
>>> --
>>> Joe Brockmeier
>>> Twitter: @jzb
>>> http://dissociatedpress.net/
>>> 
> 

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