+1 On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 2:04 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andrew, > I think one general issue is the lack of transparency (and community > involvement) in the decision making discussions. Not the documentation of > the decisions once done. That's good to have but if we have transparency as > a guiding principle, we should include that in the discussions too. > > My 2c > > Andrew Otto <o...@wikimedia.org> schrieb am Fr., 7. Okt. 2022, 18:40: > >> FWIW, the WMF Data Engineering team has had some discussions about this >> in the past, and we decided that all decisions and real work doc has to be >> either in Phabricator or on a Wiki. We use Slack or IRC to discuss things, >> but if we come to a conclusion, we try to summarize and document the >> conclusion in Phab. I think we do this well with most things, but not as >> well as we should with annual and quarterly planning docs (I think these >> are in google docs and better works). >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 10:54 AM Bryan Davis <bd...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 1:14 AM Taavi Väänänen <h...@taavi.wtf> wrote: >>> > >>> > As a final note, I've been referring to the #wikimedia-cloud-admin IRC >>> > channel and the cloud-admin mailing list as public venues. While >>> > technically true (the IRC channel and the mailing list archives are >>> > public), I don't think those are mentioned anywhere on Wikitech and >>> > cloud-admin subscription is moderated for non-staff (and I have a vague >>> > memory of my subscription being rejected before I had Toolforge admin >>> > access). I think there's some work to be done here to make it easier >>> for >>> > people to get involved. >>> >>> The cloud-ad...@lists.wikimedia.org mailing list has always had public >>> archives (which are much more useful now that we have mailman3) but >>> closed membership. The intent of this list was never to be a forum for >>> community discussion, but we did consciously choose to make the >>> archives open so that interested parties could see the discussions >>> that were held here. >>> >>> Bryan >>> -- >>> Bryan Davis Technical Engagement Wikimedia Foundation >>> Principal Software Engineer Boise, ID USA >>> [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] irc: bd808 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cloud mailing list -- cloud@lists.wikimedia.org >>> List information: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/cloud.lists.wikimedia.org/ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cloud mailing list -- cloud@lists.wikimedia.org >> List information: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/cloud.lists.wikimedia.org/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Cloud mailing list -- cloud@lists.wikimedia.org > List information: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/cloud.lists.wikimedia.org/ >
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