On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 5:39 AM Taavi Väänänen <h...@taavi.wtf> wrote: > > In general, I feel that over the last few months, > quite a lot of planning and progress reporting has moved from our > various public channels (most notably Phabricator and -cloud-admin on > IRC) to private ones. I don't particularly like this trend.
I did a thing in my late afternoon yesterday that may have aggravated Tavvi's feelings of being left out of decision loops. I made a decision without consulting any other Toolforge admins to add about 300MiB of fonts to the php7.4 Docker image available for use on Toolforge [0]. This decision reversed my prior blocking of this exact same request in 2019 [1]. It also goes against at least as many years of the Toolforge admins telling the Toolforge member community that we do not "bloat" the Kubernetes containers with specialty features for a small number of use cases. This reversal will complicate future decisions on such issues by introducing this easily seen counter example. I acted with good intent in the moment, but I did not act with good judgement nor consideration of my partners in maintaining the Toolforge infrastructure. For that I am truly sorry. I would also like to apologize for treating what I was doing as "urgent" when it could have easily waited for a discussion with others either in code review or in other forums. This false urgency was counter to what I know to be the best way to treat technical decisions and it was disrespectful of my co-admins in the Toolforge environment. I would also like to have a conversation among the Toolforge admins about how to best deal with this decision going forward. That conversation is probably better had on Phabricator or the cloud-admin mailing list than here, but it should happen and it should result in either reverting the change that I made or jointly creating updated guidelines for what is and is not acceptable in the shared Kubernetes containers while we await better methods of managing per-tool feature differences. [0]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T310435#8288848 [1]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/docker-images/toollabs-images/+/488764 Bryan -- Bryan Davis Technical Engagement Wikimedia Foundation Principal Software Engineer Boise, ID USA [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] irc: bd808 _______________________________________________ Cloud mailing list -- cloud@lists.wikimedia.org List information: https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/cloud.lists.wikimedia.org/
