On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:54 AM, James Gatannah <james.gatan...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> It was (thoughtfully and politely) pointed out that I came across as smug
> here.
>
> I'm very sorry about that. I plead exhaustion.
>

Heh-heh, well, as the late, great Erik Naggum once said to me, you meant
well and that is all that matters.

Also, we are in complete agreement on the advantages of lein/boot/whatever
so I did not know what to say.

Me, I am a lousy typist so I never use a repl. I also normally program
Common Lisp in the AllegroCL IDE which is so awesome I use it even though
it runs only on Windows <spit>.

My observation about not being able (in effect) to just type "clojure" at
the shell command line and get a prompt was more about "Gosh, there sure is
a lot of tooling involved in programming Clojure".

I am reminded of cars. Back in the day anyone with the gumption could work
on a car. I recall coming out of week-long retreat with a group of fellow
grad students and one of them discovering her brake pedal went to the
floor. I grabbed the tools from the toolbox in my trunk and in like five
minutes we bled her brake line. Nowadays? Fuggedabout it. Hell, the
mechanic at my corner garage refuses to do anything more than tires and
batteries.

OTOH, as you say, now that I have lein somewhat under control I am working
about as efficiently as I did with AllegroCL, so the learning curve pays
off. I may even jump into boot and arrange it for it to kick off qooxdoo
builds along with my cljs builds (necessary only for releases).

cheers, kenneth

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