In a lot of ways, Clojure is a good first language: Except for project.clj
files (which you don't absolutely need right off the bat), it's not too
hard for a novice to look at a simple Clojure program and not see 40 things
he doesn't understand. (I don't know if it's still like this, but the
initial C# programs I wrote came with pages of boilerplate, though hidden.)

In other ways, it's less good: any language discouraging state is going to
face the "what just happened?" challenge.

Clojure, in particular, has a weakness in its multi-page stack dumps, and
its "Null Pointer Exception". The former is an awful thing to force a
beginner to confront. The latter can be just plain mysterious.

I've had good luck with Smalltalk.


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Matching Socks <phill.w...@gmail.com>
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>
> The post-Python effect came up briefly in another Conj talk -- in 2015 --
> given by Elena Machkasova and two students, one of whom had had Clojure
> first and the other Python.  Their school offered it either way.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0yN1GauxCA
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