Thanks Jason,

I don’t particularly want dynamic registration; when the ‘world’ is 
instantiated it can now about the observers.

I could do this but it is missing the ‘filter out uninteresting events’ bit. I 
want each observer to declare its interest.

Your ‘middleware pattern’ however is something I would use to do the delegation 
(i.e. the actual glue that pushes to each interested observer) as the world 
itself shouldn’t really care.

Thanks for the thoughts - keep them coming!

> On 7 Dec 2015, at 17:15, Jason Felice <jason.m.fel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It looks like you want dynamic registration of event handlers, which is not 
> something I've done.  If you *didn't* want that, then this the middleware 
> pattern:
> 
> (defn null-processor
>   [world event]
>   world)
> 
> (defn some-other-middleware
>   [handler]
>   (fn [world event]
>      ...
>      (handler world event)
>      ...
>      ) => world'
> 
> (def processor
>   (-> root-middleware
>     some-other-middleware
>     ...))
> 
> Each processor can respond to some subset of events and ignore the rest.  In 
> this case I folded "basket" into world.
> 
> I've thought a bit about making data-driven middleware and how to register or 
> deregister, but not come up with a decent solution – mostly because ordering 
> is often important.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 6:01 AM, Colin Yates <colin.ya...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:colin.ya...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> (apologies for the wall of text but I think the context might be useful)
> 
> I am using event sourcing so the world, at any given point in time is simply 
> a `reduce` over those events. Throughout the application different things are 
> interested in different events. 
> 
> A design that is emerging is the notion of a 'world' which knows how to 
> consume the various events and allows other parts of the system to respond to 
> certain states having happened. All of this is in-memory and could be client 
> or server side (yay for .cljc and ClojureScript).
> 
> In concrete terms imagine I have am modelling shopping baskets (again, all in 
> memory). I might be interested in knowing:
>  - whenever a certain item is added to a basket
>  - whenever a basket is cancelled
>  - whenever a complete basket is ordered
> 
> I could of course just filter the event log and pick out those events but I 
> typically want the entire entity _as it was when that event happened_, so the 
> event itself isn't sufficient.
> 
> My question is how best to model the 'I am interested in pre-x and post-y'. 
> In general, it is interesting to know the event, the aggregate root (shopping 
> basket) that event is associated with and the world (both the aggregate root 
> and the world as they were at the time of the event).
> 
> I could have an EventObserver: (defprotocol EventObserver  (observe [this 
> event entity world]) which the world notifies. One part of the system will 
> have one set of EventObservers, another will have a different set of 
> EventObservers. Also, some parts need to know _before_ the event and others 
> _after_ the event.
> 
> I don't want each Observer to have to specify every single event so a 
> protocol defining a pre/post method for each event wouldn't work because 
> (AFAIK) you can't have a default implementation of a protocol and you can't 
> have a partial implementation of a protocol. 
> 
> Where I am at is thinking that the world understands a map of EventObservers, 
> with one key for each pre/post event:
> 
> {:pre-event-one EventObserver :post-event-one EventObserver
>  :pre-event-two EventObserver :post-event-two EventObserver}
> 
> etc.
> 
> and each Observer can register their own map of EventObservers. I can 
> optimise the code by either having the world handle nil EventObserver or 
> having a default fully-populated map of EventObservers which Observers can 
> simple assoc their own handlers onto. 
> 
> Building the world is then trivially (usual disclaimer - hacky 
> stream-of-consciousness code):
> 
> (defn- locate-entity [world entity] ...)
> (defn- update-entity! [world entity] ...)
> 
> (defn- process-event [{:keys [observers world] :as result} event]
>   (let [pre-handler-kw (keyword (str 'pre-' (name (:event-type event))))
>          post-handler-kw (keyword (str 'post-' (name (:event-type event)))
>          pre-entity (locate-entity world event)
>          new-world (update-entity world entity)
>          post-entity (locate-entity new-world event]
>     (do all (for [o observers
>                       :let [pre-event-observer (pre-handler-kw o) 
> post-event-observer (post-handler-kw o)]]
>                  (when pre-event-observer (pre-event-observer event 
> pre-entity world))
>                  (when post-event-observer (post-event-observer event 
> post-entity new-world))))
>    (assoc result :world new-world))
> 
> (defn build-world [events observers]
>   (reduce process-event {:world {} :observers observers} events))
> 
> The above code could be improved in a myriad of ways, but hopefully it is 
> clear enough to highlight the problem: what mechanism is idiomatic in Clojure 
> to implement the Observers where each Observer is interested in a subset of 
> before and after a subset of events.
> 
> If you are thinking 'duh, this is obvious - use X' or 'what! that's not true 
> of course you can do X with protocols' then yep, I have almost certainly 
> overlooked something.
> 
> Finally - yeah, at times like this I really miss AOP.
> 
> Thanks for still reading :-)
> 
> Colin
> 
> 
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