Sven! Thans for sharing!
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Sven Richter <sver...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Erlis, > > Not considering myself a seasoned developer, still I stream from time to > time on: https://www.livecoding.tv/sveri/ > I am always happy to talk about things and explain everything to my best > knowledge. > > Best Regards, > Sven > > Am Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2015 16:18:00 UTC+2 schrieb Erlis Vidal: >> >> I think it will be very helpful to the Clojure community to have >> something done with Videos (screencasts) ... Clojure University? somewhere >> we can see how the more seasoned developers work. At least I won't have to >> discover by myself, I can copy the best guys.. >> >> I'll like to read whatever you write. >> >> Keep the good work. >> Erlis >> >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Miguel Ping <migue...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks guys! >>> >>> For me the ideal flow would be something that would allow me to save an >>> incoming http req (I do mostly web dev) onto some variable/def, and replay >>> it against some code I'm writing in the repl. >>> Also I like to use step debuggers when I'm new to the language or lib, >>> it allows me to go down the rabbit hole and see how things work. Sometimes >>> you find some surprises! >>> >>> I think documentation on this is something that's missing on the clj >>> community, because everyone does things a little different, but it makes it >>> hard for beginners to get the gist of it. >>> I know some people that don't even have auto-reload on lein/ring and end >>> up stopping/starting the jvm which is crazy because it takes a while. >>> >>> I may write something up, I would appreciate if you guys had any more >>> suggestions, including suggestions about where to put this info. >>> >>> This is what I think it's standard practice: >>> >>> - ideally you don't restart jvm >>> - on ring, use hot-reload/auto-reload >>> - app can be started from repl >>> - ide can eval clj expressions (send it to repl) >>> - people code small bits on ide, eval it, loop on this until its working >>> - can do this for tests also >>> - basically the whole idea is to have components built upon functional >>> style that can be started and invoked from the repl at any layer depth >>> >>> - As for debuggers, I know some people other than Sean that dont use >>> step debuggers at all (specially oldschool ppl), but I think its helpful >>> for newbies >>> >>> >>> I will keep you guys updated if I ever write something. First have to >>> learn it ;) >>> >>> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 8:07:32 PM UTC+1, Sean Corfield wrote: >>>> >>>> Miguel Ping wrote on Monday, October 5, 2015 at 3:00 AM: >>>> >>>> - do you code functions in the repl and copy them to respective files? >>>> >>>> >>>> I use Emacs/CIDER and code functions in a file, then use C-M-x to >>>> evaluate each one into the running REPL. I usually keep the REPL in the >>>> user namespace and require in the namespace I’m working on (C-c C-z to jump >>>> to the REPL as needed) and then type in expressions to test functions as I >>>> go. Later I’ll take a transcript of parts of the REPL and add them to my >>>> unit test namespace — usually just copy’n’paste, followed by some minor >>>> edits to turn them into Expectations format: (expect {expected} {actual}) >>>> which means using C-M-t to swap REPL output which has: >>>> >>>> user> (some test expression) >>>> {the actual output} >>>> >>>> => >>>> >>>> (expect {the actual output} >>>> (some test expression)) >>>> >>>> Put the cursor after the prompt: user>| then M-delete, type (expect) >>>> and slurp twice M-) then forward one s-exp C-M-f and swap C-M-t >>>> >>>> - do you edit files directly and hook them into the repl? >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, but I don’t save them every time since I can use C-M-x to evaluate >>>> the current form as I type. >>>> >>>> - how do you set breakpoints? >>>> >>>> >>>> I don’t bother. I’ve never liked step debuggers in any language in my >>>> 30+ years of development :( >>>> >>>> - can you do hot-replacement easily? I always see a bunch of stack >>>> traces while using lein and ring with reload flags >>>> >>>> >>>> If I want to hot-swap into a running process, I just start a REPL >>>> server inside the process and connect CIDER to that, instead of starting a >>>> standalone REPL in Emacs. I tend to use standalone REPLs only for running >>>> Expectations anyway (where I use a slightly different workflow and keep the >>>> REPL in the same namespace as the Expectations file (C-c M-n to swap REPL >>>> namespaces). >>>> >>>> - is there an article or screencast explaining the "feel" of this? >>>> >>>> >>>> I don’t know, sorry. >>>> >>>> Sean >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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