Matt, Nice to hear you noticed it too! I saw a presentation once (wish I could remember where) about design patterns that are 100% unnecessary in Clojure. That definitely had an effect on my thinking. So much boilerplate...
Thanks for your thoughts, Johanna On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 8:04:12 AM UTC-7, Matt Bailey wrote: > > Johanna, > > I noticed you mentioned CQRS. In my work, we use CQRS heavily, > specifically the Axon framework for Java (utilizing Spring and Hibernate). > I got into Clojure through watching Rich Hickey's talks and figured that > any language that he wrote had to be good. > > It's remarkable to me how cleanly the concepts applied in CQRS map to > concepts in Clojure. The funny thing is that CQRS would never be necessary > if it wasn't for languages like C# and Java. > > It can be discouraging to see people's eyes glaze over when you talk about > code as a series of transformations on the input. Many people limit their > understanding of code to a very procedural style with ifs, elses and > "helper methods" that have side effects. > > Sorry I don't have any words of wisdom on how to evangelize Clojure, but I > am glad to see someone else noted the parallels between CQRS and a more > functional style of programming. > > Cheers! > -Matt > > On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 2:47:31 PM UTC-7, Johanna Belanger wrote: >> >> That's really cool, thanks! >> >> On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:27:37 AM UTC-7, juvenn wrote: >>> >>> Hi Johanna, >>> >>> I don’t know if it'll work for your team, but I find Shaun Le Bron's >>> "Interactive guide to Tetris in ClojureScript” the most succinct and >>> beautiful way of showing power of Clojure and ClojureScript. >>> >>> https://github.com/shaunlebron/t3tr0s-slides >>> >>> Have fun! >>> -- >>> Juvenn Woo >>> Sent with Sparrow <http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig> >>> >>> On Saturday, 11 July, 2015 at 1:24 pm, Johanna Belanger wrote: >>> >>> I ended up giving him a brief description of Clojure, with stress on its >>> ability to do heavy lifting with very little code, and sent him a link to >>> Neal Ford's talk "The Curious Clojurist" >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxLnpgnDApg>. We'll see what happens. >>> Thanks everyone for your advice. >>> >>> On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 3:20:23 PM UTC-7, Johanna Belanger wrote: >>> >>> Hi :) >>> >>> I've recently broached the subject of Clojure with another dev in my >>> organization, and his response was basically "What's Clojure"? and I'm not >>> sure how to answer that in a way that might inspire him. "It's a >>> dynamically-typed functional Lisp with persistent immutable data structures >>> that runs on the JVM" doesn't seem like it will grab his interest. =) >>> >>> I work primarily in .NET, and he does enterprise Java. I don't know him >>> well enough to know how happy he is with it. He did express interest in >>> learning .Net. >>> >>> I came to an appreciation of Clojure through >>> >>> -CQRS (the power of decomplection!) >>> -Sussman and Abelson's SICP class at MIT online (the power of >>> homoiconicity and functions!) >>> -the death of Silverlight (alternatives to Javascript in the browser?) >>> >>> By the time I found Rich Hickey's talks (eg Simple Made Easy) I was >>> pretty well primed to love Clojure. I've been using it for little personal >>> projects and prototyping for a couple of years, but I haven't put it in >>> production because no one else here knows it. >>> >>> Could anyone tell me how they got from enterprise Java to Clojure? >>> >>> Thanks very much, >>> Johanna >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
