I always run my REPL inside of Counterclockwise, but as far as I know it
uses leiningen to launch the REPL.  In any case, when I attach a profiler
such as the built-in jvisualvm to the REPL process, it clearly says that
the REPL is running in 64-bit server mode.

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Lee Spector <lspec...@hampshire.edu> wrote:

> FWIW if I run with no :jvm-opts at all then I often crash with an
> out-of-memory error, so I do know that whatever happens by default doesn't
> do what I'm doing with respect to memory, at least.
>
> I don't know what happens with respect to the other issues (tiered
> compilation and whatever else) by default, or with -server, etc.
>
>  -Lee
>
>
> On May 14, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Colin Yates <colin.ya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now I feel even more of an ignoramus :)
> On 14 May 2015 21:57, "Mark Engelberg" <mark.engelb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I know that remembering to put "-server" used to be a huge issue, but I
>> thought that on all recent versions of Java on all modern 64-bit machines,
>> -server is now the default.  I thought it was a non-issue at this point.
>> Is that incorrect?
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Colin Yates <colin.ya...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably not helpful, but I tend to rely on the jvm optimisations and
>>> just -server. I figured this is an area where a little knowledge is a
>>> dangerous thing.
>>>
>>> At the very least I would have a realistic benchmark suite to prove to
>>> myself that these gains were worth it. In my experience the performance
>>> bottleneck is always in design.
>>>
>>> Just my 2p, although with my self-confessed ignoramus status it is more
>>> like 0.5p :).
>>> On 14 May 2015 21:46, "Lee Spector" <lspec...@hampshire.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to get more guidance on how to specify :jvm-opts for maximum
>>>> performance. I've received some help on this topic from people on this list
>>>> in the past (thanks!), but I'm pretty sure that I'm still not doing things
>>>> right.
>>>>
>>>> I'm almost always interested in maximum performance for long-running,
>>>> compute-intensive and memory-intensive processes, almost never caring much
>>>> at all about startup time or anything else.
>>>>
>>>> I also run my code on different machines, with different numbers of
>>>> cores and amounts of memory, and would prefer to be able to put something
>>>> in my project.clj that will do something reasonable regardless of what
>>>> machine it's running on.
>>>>
>>>> I run my code with "lein run", and I'd like whatever I need to "run
>>>> fast" to be in project.clj.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know a lot about JVM options, and I've tried to figure out what
>>>> to specify for :jvm-opts by asking questions here and web searches, but I'm
>>>> not at all confident that I'm doing it right yet. And because my systems
>>>> are also stochastic, it's not easy for me to do timing tests on the options
>>>> I've tried.
>>>>
>>>> I think there are options relevant to memory and also garbage
>>>> collection and maybe also compilation... and what else? I wish there was a
>>>> simple switch to get maximum performance of the sort I've outlined here (or
>>>> at least a reasonable stab at it), but I gather that there isn't.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, here's what I've been using recently, which just deals with
>>>> memory and GC (and maybe not in the best way):
>>>>
>>>>   :jvm-opts ~(let [mem-to-use (long (* (.getTotalPhysicalMemorySize
>>>>
>>>>  (java.lang.management.ManagementFactory/getOperatingSystemMXBean))
>>>>                                        0.8))]
>>>>                [(str "-Xmx" mem-to-use)
>>>>                 (str "-Xms" mem-to-use)
>>>>                 "-XX:+UseG1GC"])
>>>>
>>>> After seeing Alex's post I thought that maybe I should add "-server",
>>>> as follows:
>>>>
>>>>   :jvm-opts ~(let [mem-to-use (long (* (.getTotalPhysicalMemorySize
>>>>
>>>>  (java.lang.management.ManagementFactory/getOperatingSystemMXBean))
>>>>                                        0.8))]
>>>>                [(str "-Xmx" mem-to-use)
>>>>                 (str "-Xms" mem-to-use)
>>>>                 "-XX:+UseG1GC"
>>>>                 "-server"])
>>>>
>>>> Is that right? Does it make sense? What does "-server" do? Also, should
>>>> I also be using "^:replace"?
>>>>
>>>> I've looked in
>>>> https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/blob/master/sample.project.clj
>>>> in hopes that this would say more about this stuff, but it doesn't say
>>>> anything about -server or ^:replace.
>>>>
>>>> Looking into the compilation options, it looks from
>>>> https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/wiki/Faster that I should be
>>>> specifying:
>>>>
>>>> :jvm-opts ^:replace []
>>>>
>>>> This is also familiar to me from some earlier discussions. But how
>>>> would I combine this with the memory/GC/server(?) options above?
>>>>
>>>> A guess would be that maybe I should do this:
>>>>
>>>>   :jvm-opts ^:replace
>>>>               ~(let [mem-to-use (long (* (.getTotalPhysicalMemorySize
>>>>
>>>>  (java.lang.management.ManagementFactory/getOperatingSystemMXBean))
>>>>                                        0.8))]
>>>>                [(str "-Xmx" mem-to-use)
>>>>                 (str "-Xms" mem-to-use)
>>>>                 "-XX:+UseG1GC"
>>>>                 "-server"
>>>>                 "-XX:-TieredCompilation"])
>>>>
>>>> Note that this guess involves changing a + to a - in the last line,
>>>> which was suggested for the opposite purpose at
>>>> https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/wiki/Faster -- but I don't
>>>> know if it's legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a reasonable thing to do to get maximum performance for
>>>> long-running, compute-intensive and memory-intensive processes?
>>>>
>>>> Is the tiered compilation thing maybe already done by including
>>>> "-server"?
>>>>
>>>> I'm probably at least somewhat confused about several different issues
>>>> here...
>>>>
>>>> Any help or pointers would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>  -Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On May 14, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Alex Miller <a...@puredanger.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Gah. Meant in project.clj:
>>>> >
>>>> > :jvm-opts ^:replace ["-server"]  ;; maybe also set max heap with
>>>> "-Xmx1g" in there
>>>> >
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