On 03/05/2015 14:39, larry google groups wrote:
The industry has been moving against frameworks for 15 years now. The
peak of the monolithic framework craze was Struts, back in 2000. After
that, people started craving something less bloated. That's why the
whole industry was so excited when Rails emerged in 2004. Bruce Eckel
summed up the sudden change of mood in his essay "The departure of the
hyper-enthusiasts":
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=141312
But after awhile, people began to feel that even Rails was bloated,
which lead to the emergence of micro-frameworks like Sinatra.
And then, continuing with the trend, we've seen the emergence of
eco-systems, such as Clojure, that allow the trend to go further:
Clojure supports such high levels composition that frameworks are no
longer needed. And this is the direction the industry has been moving
for the last 15 years. Clojure is simply out in front. Most languages
don't allow this level of composition.
The web development industry as reflected in job postings at
Indeed.co.uk is still dominated by the likes of Rails, Django, Laravel,
Zend, Symfony & Spring so I'm not sure how you've concluded that there's
been a 15-year trend towards composition. Ruby and Python have had
lightweight composable alternatives for many years but Rails and Django
still dominate. I'm not against the composition at all. I just think we
need more structured alternatives that we can at least brand and market
as well as teach to Clojure beginners.
gvim
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