On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, gvim <gvi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One could conclude from this that the Clojure community isn't that
> interested in web development but the last Clojure survey suggests
> otherwise.


Yes, lots of web apps get built with Clojure.


> Furthermore, I have a hunch that Clojure's poor adoption as indicated by
> Indeed.com maybe due to this immaturity in the web framework sphere.


I think Clojure's adoption is just fine for its age and its uniqueness.
It's not the sort of language that mainstream developers are going to rush
to, to build general web apps. People who adopt Clojure generally do so
because they want to build software "The Clojure Way". That they also build
a lot of web apps is somewhat incidental.

Every now and then we see a call for a "big web framework" and every now
and then someone builds a "big web framework"... but the people who call
for these frameworks don't seem to rally around the frameworks that appear,
so it's really no surprise that these frameworks don't have the traction
you're looking for...

I've used some "big web frameworks". I don't like them.

Years ago, for another language, I collaborated on almost every major web
framework that appeared. I was lead developer on a few of them for various
periods of time. Six years ago, I created my own very small,
convention-based framework for that language. It's one of the top two
frameworks for that language in terms of downloads, users, and mindshare.
We run a bunch of high traffic production stuff on it at work. A few years
back I decided to port it to Clojure, mostly as a personal challenge, but
also because I thought it might be useful at work. Clojure's focuse on
libraries meant that I only needed to write 400 lines of code and leverage
Ring, and Selmer, to get it up and running. I haven't promoted it in the
Clojure community yet because I'm not yet using it in production but I
think it's a good solution -- but it's definitely not a "big web framework".
-- 
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"Perfection is the enemy of the good."
-- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)

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