Agree Chris, I think Clojure has a lot of advantage. I never intended to knock Clojure just question as a person returning to look at the project at the potential roadblocks whether real or perceived that were potentially limiting its adoption.
Sayth On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 at 10:07 Christopher Small <metasoar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Editors as they apply to data science adoption is certainly relevant, > particularly as relates to ease of adoption for beginners. It's easy for an > experienced developer to dismiss the difference of ease in adopting > something like RStudio vs R by itself; Those with experience already have > workflows they're used to (vim/emacs + tmux / whatever), but getting to > that point is not trivial. And there are certainly those who come to R and > python looking to do data science who have little programming experience. > I've seen a lot of this among biologists in particular. > > The Gorilla REPL does certainly take us a good way there, for those > interested in the notebook model. But the RStudio/MATLAB workbench model is > also something worth considering. Some easy to install packages gluing > together Incanter, core.matrix, Gorilla REPL, Quil, and perhaps > tools/interfaces that don't exist yet, with excellent documentation and > guidance, could make a huge difference in adoption. > > As for broader thoughts coming to mind: My experience has been that R is > great for exploration, but is terrible for scaling into bigger systems from > an architectural standpoint (but other's might disagree with me). It can > also feel rather cumbersome when developing algorithms. Python feels much > better along these lines, but also has its own warts as a language > (concurrency for example). It's my opinion that the shortcomings of Clojure > for data science are much more easily addressable than those of R or > python, as they're less about the language itself than things missing from > ecosystem which can be added. And I think the value of a language which > scales from exploration to production naturally is not something to be > undervalued. > > Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/vsjUlAWm64g/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.