I have voted your issue up, and added a comment. Thanks for the link :-) -- Pierre Masci
On 1 August 2014 11:16, Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar.bat...@gmail.com> wrote: > I recently raised a similar point regarding `starts-with?` and > `ends-with?` (link - http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-1449) and it > seems that Clojure's team acknowledges that this is valid reasoning. > > I think you should open a ticket as well as the case you present is pretty > much the same. With ClojureScript and cljx it makes much more sense now to > create > portable interfaces that it used to before (in the era of Java-only > Clojure). > > > On Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:56:44 PM UTC+3, Pierre Masci wrote: > >> Thank you for your insight Andy :-) >> >> Interesting question Bruce. >> >> -- Pierre Masci >> >> >> On 19 July 2014 16:49, Andy Fingerhut <andy.fi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I would have to defer that question to someone who makes decisions >>> regarding what goes into Clojure/ClojureScript, and what does not. >>> >>> Of course, anyone else is free to create libraries that try to make >>> portability between those two platforms easier. Perhaps someone has >>> already taken a go at creating such a thing? I haven't used ClojureScript >>> myself yet, so haven't looked for anything in that area. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Durling <b...@otfrom.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Andy, >>>> >>>> How much of this reasoning do you think changes when we starting >>>> thinking about being hosted on multiple platforms (I'm thinking >>>> specifically clojure/clojurescript and cljx)? >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Bruce >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Andy Fingerhut >>>> <andy.fi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Pierre: >>>> > >>>> > I maintain the cheatsheet, and I put .indexOf and .lastIndexOf on >>>> there >>>> > since they are probably the most common thing I saw asked about that >>>> is in >>>> > the Java API but not the Clojure API, for strings. There are also >>>> links to >>>> > whole Java classes and their entire API, e.g. for file I/O, for which >>>> there >>>> > is no Clojure equivalent, since file I/O is a common need. Clojure >>>> is meant >>>> > to be a hosted language, not hiding its host platform, but making it >>>> easily >>>> > callable. >>>> > >>>> > If there are entire Java classes that meet very common needs that >>>> aren't >>>> > mentioned on the cheatsheet, I would consider adding links to their >>>> > documentation pages. I don't want to fill up the cheatsheet with many >>>> > individual Java methods, though. >>>> > >>>> > As for why there are not Clojure equivalents of particular Java API >>>> methods, >>>> > I think the reasoning might be similar (it has likely been discussed >>>> > publicly, but I don't have a link handy) -- don't create a large >>>> number of >>>> > Clojure functions that do nothing more than what the equivalent Java >>>> APIs >>>> > do. >>>> > >>>> > Andy >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pierre Masci <mas...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. >>>> >> >>>> >> I've been comparing it with Java's, and I noticed that (not >>>> surprisingly) >>>> >> they are very similar. >>>> >> There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an >>>> >> equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding >>>> to >>>> >> clojure.string : >>>> >> >>>> >> (.indexOf s "c") and (.lastIndexOf "c") >>>> >> >>>> >> (.startsWith s "danc") and (.endsWith s "ing") >>>> >> >>>> >> (.charAt s 5) >>>> >> same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less >>>> general >>>> >> than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be >>>> >> unnecessary sugar. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet, >>>> maybe >>>> >> .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? >>>> >> >>>> >> I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like >>>> (lower-case) >>>> >> for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. >>>> >> >>>> >> I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it >>>> is. >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> >> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> >> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>> with >>>> >> your first post. >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>> >> --- >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> >> "Clojure" group. >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an >>>> >> email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> > Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>> with your >>>> > first post. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> > clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>> > --- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "Clojure" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an >>>> > email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> @otfrom | CTO & co-founder @MastodonC | mastodonc.com >>>> See recent coverage of us in the Economist http://econ.st/WeTd2i and >>>> the Financial Times http://on.ft.com/T154BA >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>>> your first post. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>> >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>> topic/clojure/MzsfBo7Vkjg/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/MzsfBo7Vkjg/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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