Thanks Alex.

Yep, I think Prismatic's schema is going to be invaluable for making the 
data structure less opaque and providing the comfort that I have lost from 
the lack of a rigorous and extensive strict type system (carefully avoiding 
the use of "strong", "lose", "static" and "dynamic" :)). 

On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:26:59 PM UTC+1, Alex Miller wrote:
>
> Clojure is designed to make your data accessible generically without 
> getters/setters or other custom APIs so I would encourage direct access via 
> keywords over accessor fns. 
>
> One consequence of this is that fns using a data structure have a direct 
> coupling to the structure of the data. I prefer to see this as (usually) a 
> feature. Accessor functions allow you to create a point of indirection and 
> I have used that occasionally in very narrow circumstances where I did not 
> want to commit to a data structure. However, I think this is the exception 
> rather than the rule. defrecord (or add-ons like Prismatic's schema 
> library) can formalize the contents of your entities and provide 
> documentation and validation where and how you need it.
>
> On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:43:53 AM UTC-5, Colin Yates wrote:
>>
>> (This has been discussed before but as this is fairly subjective I am 
>> interested in whether people's opinion has changed)
>>
>> What are people's experiences around using keywords or defined accessors 
>> for navigating data structures in Clojure (assuming the use of maps)?  Do 
>> people prefer using "raw" keywords or do people define accessors.
>>
>> For example, given {:my-property 10} would people inline "my-property" or 
>> define a (defn my-property [m] (:my-property m))?  If you use keywords then 
>> do you alias them (i.e. (def my-property :my-property)?
>>
>> My experience is that accessors become painful and restrictive really 
>> quickly (navigating nested maps for example) so keywords are the way to go. 
>>  I tend to have a domain.clj which documents my domain and defines all the 
>> important abstractions (i.e. (def my-property :my-property).  I find this 
>> very useful, combined with marginalia for documentation purposes.  It also 
>> offers some aid in refactoring as multiple abstractions might resolve to 
>> the same keyword (i.e. value-group and bracket-group might resolve to 
>> :group).
>>
>> But, to be blunt, it can be a little cumbersome.  I also refer :as the 
>> namespace, so instead of (get-in m [:a :b]) it is (get-in m [dom/a dom/b]).
>>
>> What are your thoughts (and any other hints/tips for maintaining large 
>> Clojure code bases?)
>>
>

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