I was actually thinking of the case where the metadata was computed in some 
way from the Java object (i.e. when it is more like read-only property). In 
most of the cases where I have wanted metadata on arbitrary Java objects, 
this would have been sufficient.

You probably want to go the wrapper route if you want first-class metadata 
behaviour (with-meta et al.) - in effect you would be creating a new kind 
of object with a new kind of "state" so it's better to wrap (and maybe 
simultaneously add a nice wrapper API with idiomatic Clojure style) than to 
try and pretend that the Java Object is something that it isn't. 

The alternatives of a global metadata map or some kind of memoization look 
really messy to implement - they wouldn't play nicely with the varying 
immutable vs. mutable update semantics that you might see on arbitrary Java 
objects, they often cause subtle concurrency issues and global state is 
usually a bad idea anyway. It might just work if you limit yourself to 
one-off assignment of metadata to object instances, but even that is 
problematic (cloning the Java object wouldn't preserve metadata, for 
example)

On Sunday, 1 September 2013 21:58:25 UTC+8, Colin Jones wrote:
>
> I thought of protocols initially here too, but protocols just define 
> functions, so where would the data live that you want as metadata? 
>
> A closure over the data? This implies extending the protocol on a 
> per-instance basis, which afaik doesn't exist (cljs design work aside 
> http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/specify+i.e.+reify+for+instances).
>
> Some global map? We can't key on arbitrary java objects since the hashcode 
> can change. Is there a key that will work?
>
> A var? We can already do that.
>
> Maybe there's someplace I'm missing where you could store this data and 
> look it up later via a protocol implementation?
>
>

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