A mailing list debate doesn't count as a "real world application" for such skills as well? :)
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:05 AM, James Ashley <james.ash...@gmail.com>wrote: > Steven Degutis <sbdegu...@gmail.com> Jul 24 08:16AM -0500 > >> >> >> First, the goal of Verily was not the same as Test2. It wasn't >> intended to >> unify any existing test libs. It was really just meant to succeed >> clojure.test in spirit. That's all. >> >> Second, nobody "bullied" me into this decision. Some people asked how >> Verily improved upon the alternatives, and, try as I might, I >> couldn't come >> up with any good answer. That's how I realized that the project was >> pointless, a waste of time, and was wrought in arrogance. >> >> > I know I'm a week late catching up, and I don't have any credibility on > this list at all, but > I'm still inclined to submit some profanity at this point. > > <delurk><soapbox> > Did you learn anything from writing this? Have you produced anything at > all that might > be worth contributing to other projects (even if it's just ideas?) Did you > produce something > that we lesser mortals might learn from in our efforts to contribute to > the Holy > Sanctum of High Testing? > > Or, for that matter, hints about best ways to use them? > > (I'm totally not commenting about any of the existing "major" > frameworks...I'm commenting > strictly about this email). > > I don't care if you just produced some ASCII art that some Bavarian hacker > will someday > find amusing while she's dribbling her baklava in her latte (or whatever > it is people do in > countries that actually need fancy character sets)...if you produced > something, it was worthwhile. > > We live in a world that's full of consumers. And complainers that what you > produced wasn't > good enough. It sounds like this isn't what really what happened here, but > the basic idea and > attitude applies. > > A "how could I do this better?" RFC is one thing. I've learned tons from > those sorts of > discussions. The projects by themselves might have been pointless, but (if > nothing else) > the learning experience was not. > > Who knows who else might learn from our mistakes? > </soapbox> > > My apologies for the rant...I recently acquired a tween daughter, so I'm > trying to hone my > skills for these sorts of moments in real world applications. > </delurk> > > Regards, > James > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
