Steven Degutis <sbdegu...@gmail.com> Jul 24 08:16AM -0500 > > > First, the goal of Verily was not the same as Test2. It wasn't > intended to > unify any existing test libs. It was really just meant to succeed > clojure.test in spirit. That's all. > > Second, nobody "bullied" me into this decision. Some people asked how > Verily improved upon the alternatives, and, try as I might, I couldn't > come > up with any good answer. That's how I realized that the project was > pointless, a waste of time, and was wrought in arrogance. > > I know I'm a week late catching up, and I don't have any credibility on this list at all, but I'm still inclined to submit some profanity at this point.
<delurk><soapbox> Did you learn anything from writing this? Have you produced anything at all that might be worth contributing to other projects (even if it's just ideas?) Did you produce something that we lesser mortals might learn from in our efforts to contribute to the Holy Sanctum of High Testing? Or, for that matter, hints about best ways to use them? (I'm totally not commenting about any of the existing "major" frameworks...I'm commenting strictly about this email). I don't care if you just produced some ASCII art that some Bavarian hacker will someday find amusing while she's dribbling her baklava in her latte (or whatever it is people do in countries that actually need fancy character sets)...if you produced something, it was worthwhile. We live in a world that's full of consumers. And complainers that what you produced wasn't good enough. It sounds like this isn't what really what happened here, but the basic idea and attitude applies. A "how could I do this better?" RFC is one thing. I've learned tons from those sorts of discussions. The projects by themselves might have been pointless, but (if nothing else) the learning experience was not. Who knows who else might learn from our mistakes? </soapbox> My apologies for the rant...I recently acquired a tween daughter, so I'm trying to hone my skills for these sorts of moments in real world applications. </delurk> Regards, James -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.