Thanks for the feedback, Lee - that's interesting. As a data point, JetBrains have a $30 academic license for PyCharm and a free Classroom edition, although I don't know the details of how that works. I'd be happy to try to negotiate something for that kind of use case.
Also, I'd definitely try to steer clear of any really onerous licensing scheme like license servers - I think the community here is sufficiently friendly that piracy or license abuse is probably not a huge problem, and apart from that I don't like the idea of treating actual customers as if they were thieves. On 28 July 2013 00:58, Lee Spector <lspec...@hampshire.edu> wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Colin Fleming wrote: > > One problem is that the IDE space is already fairly fractured - there's > Emacs and CCW, Clooj, Sublime Text and the promise of Light Table at some > point, and of course the current public version of La Clojure. But there's > still not a great option for something that's powerful but easy to use - > CCW is probably the closest thing to this right now. However I think it's > telling that a large fraction of people in the State of Clojure 2012 survey > still identified development tools as a major pain point. > > > > I think that the IntelliJ platform is a fantastic base to build > something like this on. Clojure as a language makes it pretty challenging > to develop a lot of the great functionality that JetBrains are famous for, > but I think there's scope to do a lot of great things. Certainly for mixed > Clojure/Java projects it would be difficult to beat, but even for Clojure > only projects I can imagine a lot of fantastic functionality built on their > infrastructure. My plan would be to release a standalone IDE and a plugin > for people using IntelliJ Ultimate for web dev, Ruby/Python or whatever. > Since it's mostly Clojure now (and I'm migrating what's left as I get to > it) there's a real possibility of a Clojure plugin/extension API. I > envision charging PyCharm/RubyMine type prices, say $200 for company > licenses or $100 for individual developers. > > > > So, I'd love to hear what people think. > > One data point: I'd be very happy to pay an amount in this ballpark for a > Clojure IDE that combined power and usability better than the current > options. > > One important consideration for me, however, would be the cost and ease of > making it available to my students as well, both in our labs and on their > personal machines (which they often use to do their work). Some products > make this a pain by requiring us to count machines or deal with license > servers, or the costs add up too fast. I think there are good ways to deal > with this (e.g. free or time-limited student licenses), and while I don't > have strong opinions about the details it'd be important that it could be > done for reasonable expense and with minimal hassle. > > -Lee > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
