At first glance, those issues seem like they could be mitigated, so I think
I see room here for some real-time ref-counted clojure.  I imagine it'd
still have a lot of allocations so it wouldn't be that great for low-memory
systems.


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Jean Niklas L'orange <jeann...@hypirion.com
> wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:21:36 PM UTC+2, Gary Trakhman wrote:
>>
>> I just thought about this recently, but does the value-oriented nature of
>> clojure mostly void the need for a cycles-aware GC?  It seems like you
>> won't ever have cycles without identities, or pointers (java references).
>>  Maybe this would be a problem only when you need identities, ie deftype or
>> defprotocol implementing objects.
>>
>
> Sure thing, the value-oriented nature removes a lot of cycles in practice.
> However, you may for instance have an atom which contain itself, so they
> are not nonexistant. As such, the GC cannot be completely cycle-ignorant,
> but perhaps it doesn't have to be efficient at finding them either.
>
> Another place where cycles happen are in (mutually) recursive functions,
> they may be iffy if you define many recursive anonymous functions at
> runtime.
>
> -- Jean Niklas L'orange
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