I agree with you, but personally found that the starter-kit wasn't as divergent 
from the norm as emacs-live and didn't have as many strong opinions. My big 
complaint is really just the rebinding of C-h. It's important for newcomers to 
be able to use that to learn about bindings and so on that are custom. I 
basically just learned how to use the help commands and then extracted the 
portions of the starter kit I wanted over time.
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On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Phil Hagelberg <p...@hagelb.org> wrote:

> Devin Walters writes:
>> Voicing strong disagreement with using emacs-live as a starting
>> point. One reason: They rebind a bunch of default emacs bindings,
>> which is just fine by me, but C-h to a newcomer is important, and IIRC
>> they rebound it.
>>
>> I think Phil's emacs-starter-kit modules/packages are a better place to 
>> start.
> Eh; even the Starter Kit does way too much. It's a common problem with
> newcomers who pull in these huge packages that bundle lots of unrelated
> functionality together; it's difficult to debug when things don't work
> right since you can't tell where a specific piece of functionality comes
> from.
> These days I recommend pulling in small specific packages for the
> things you want rather than a one-size-fits-all config. It means a
> little more reading and exploring up front, but it pays off in the end.
> I spun off the bare minimum from the Starter Kit into a small, focused,
> actually-documented package called better-defaults.el that might be a
> good starting place:
>     https://github.com/technomancy/better-defaults
> I plan on doing more work around documenting useful packages in the
> future along with putting together some kind of high-level ecosystem
> guide, but haven't gotten to it yet. In the mean time, reading the
> source for the Starter Kit can be illuminating, even if you don't use it
> outright.
> -Phil

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