On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Alex Miller <a...@puredanger.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:53:32 PM UTC-5, Cedric Greevey wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Rich Morin <r...@cfcl.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2013, at 18:44, Cedric Greevey wrote:
>>> > Where are these costs coming from? ...
>>>
>>> To get professional results, you need more than a camera
>>> on a tripod.  For example, someone has to:
>>>
>>>   *  keep the camera on the speaker
>>>
>>
>> The speaker can stay approximately in one place, or, any random person
>> can be paid minimum wage to rotate the camera. Cost: $0-8 per hour. I'd not
>> be surprised if there are automated solutions for this, involving some
>> motorized gadget in the tripod head and some invisible-to-human-eyes mark
>> or reflector on the speaker's clothing perhaps, and then there'd be only a
>> one-time cost (plus some trivial amount of electricity).
>>
>
> You have no idea what you're talking about.
>

Obviously I do. Unless you're claiming that if the speaker stands fairly
still in the exact center of the camera's FOV, you'll *still* not end up
with a video where the camera stays on the speaker? Or maybe you're
claiming that the minimum wage just shot up to over eight bucks? Or ...


>   *  merge the slides with the video
>
>>
>> A lot of computers are shipping with free no-frills video editing
>> software these days that probably suffices for this.
>>
>
> You have no idea what you're talking about.
>

Yes I do. In fact I *wrote* some software to splice slides and video clips
together, with transition effects, and render output. I did it in Clojure,
in fact. It took an afternoon. The results looked quite slick and
professional. Don't lecture me about what software is or is not capable of.


>   *  create assorted web pages, etc.
>>>
>>
>> Youtube will create a page for your video for you if you upload it there,
>> and a page for your channel/account/whatever listing all of your videos
>> that are uploaded to Youtube. There are other sites that will do similar
>> things. For ongoing series, there are sites optimized for that, too,
>> usually with .tv domains.
>>
>>
>>>   *  ...
>>>
>>> Outfits like InfoQ and Confreaks do a very good job, but
>>> they use professional staff (who expect to be paid).
>>
>>
>> And I'm guessing what they're doing is obsolescent, if not already
>> obsolete, in that it can be done about as well for a lot less money. If
>> they're charging $400 a video I smell a market ripe for disruption.
>>
>
> The example given was $400 for ALL videos, not per-video.
>

You changed it, or (being generous here) clarified it perhaps. As
originally written it implied they charged $400 per speaker to record the
videos, which would be $400 per video. Of course, charging $400 for each
*view* is really, REALLY ludicrous, unless their production costs are in
the five figures or more per video, in which case they must *really* be
doing it wrong if it costs them more to record a few conference videos than
it cost to make Star Wreck: In The Pirkinning, an FX-heavy film.


>   I'm
>>
>>> delighted that these folks provide high-quality recordings
>>> of talks, at no cost or inconvenience to me.
>>
>>
>> It seems that the delays before the videos get posted, and not having
>> control over when videos get posted, qualifies as an "inconvenience", or
>> this thread wouldn't exist.
>>
> It's also wonderful to have a local meeting recorded by a
>>> volunteer, but I _really_ don't want this to be the way our
>>> conferences are recorded.  I can wait a bit for the editing;
>>> clean results are more important than saving a month or so.
>>>
>>
>> Why are you so convinced that a volunteer couldn't do a good job?
>>
>
> I would never say a volunteer couldn't do a good job.
>

But you had no problem with implying it without quite saying it outright.
Hmm.

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