although I'm sure everybody's seen this, I believe it is relevant here, this clojureconj by Chris Granger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Eu9vZaDYw maybe only applies to clojurescript(that is, being slow in this case) the important stuff is at from 13:59
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Mark Rathwell <mark.rathw...@gmail.com>wrote: > I haven't hit any hard limits at this point, but you hit on a use case > where Python and Lua currently hit a sweet spot that I think would be > nice to use Clojure: > > C/C++ systems that want to expose scripting capabilities to users > (e.g. game engines, robotics systems). > > For these types of use cases, the ability to deploy native Clojure > executables is not as important as the ability embed a low-resource > runtime, the ability to call C/C++ code, the ability to sandbox the > environment, etc. > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Timothy Baldridge <tbaldri...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > That's why I think it's a good idea to ask what the goals are for native > > Clojure. The ClojureScript and Clojure-Py options while nice both don't > > allow for a good concurrency story. On top of that, I'm not sure either > of > > those would actually run on iOS. > > > > However, a pure, from-scratch option has a much smaller ecosystem to draw > > from. But on the upside, you're also not limited by the host VM. This > means > > that the type system could be based purely on protocols instead of > having to > > fit protocols into a OOP type system. > > > > These are the questions I'd like to see people answer here: what hard > limits > > have you hit with Clojure/ClojureScript that you think could be resolved > > with a native Clojure implementation? > > > > Timothy Baldridge > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Paul deGrandis < > paul.degran...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Additionally, you might also consider ClojureScript itself. With a > little > >> work you could embed V8 into your application > >> (https://developers.google.com/v8/embed). > >> > >> Martin Trojer just wrote a really nice blog post on embedded runtimes - > >> http://martinsprogrammingblog.blogspot.co.uk/ > >> > >> All that said, for most apps where an embedded, scripting runtime is > >> advantageous, ClojureScript-Lua +LuaJIT and PyClojure+cFFI+Python/PyPy > are > >> two very attractive options. In the best case scenario, the former > delivers > >> more speed and a smaller footprint, trading off some library and > ecosystem > >> comforts. The latter has a great ecosystem, but will be slower and > have a > >> larger memory footprint. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Clojure" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > >> your first post. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > “One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that–lacking > > zero–they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C > > programs.” > > (Robert Firth) > > > > -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your > > first post. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > -- I may be wrong or incomplete. Please express any corrections / additions, they are encouraged and appreciated. At least one entity is bound to be transformed if you do ;) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
